LGBT Thread v.3.0

[ThisSpaceForRent]

You all should know what to do. Discuss, speak up, what have you.

[RedJungleRanger]

i was thinking about tell my mom that i'm bisexual but i'm not sure i can do it.. because she might will tell my family and their friends about it so i decided to keep it as secret..

[ThisSpaceForRent]

That's probably a good idea for now. You don't have to tell anyone if you aren't ready or are worried to do it.

[Rebelde]

Aaah, the thread is back ^_^ and with the original creator as well ^_^ I hope this one will turn out better than our last failure

[Zeo]

Oops.. I created the same EXACT thread just called it GLBT... Sorry Folks. :D

Glad the thread is up though, regardless of the name :D

[Legendary.]

I'm straight but I like to support the cause. =]

Happy sticking it to the man!

[Question]

Happy sticking it to the man!

I love you so much for that.

[Legendary.]

=] what can I say...??

No seriously what. The man deserves it. He wants it!

[BlueVoltronRanger]

That's why B.R.O.T.H.E.R.H.O.O.D exists, lol

(a lil Undercover Brother reference, guilty pleasure i know, i like eddie griffin movies)

[Hadouken!]

i was thinking about tell my mom that i'm bisexual but i'm not sure i can do it.. because she might will tell my family and their friends about it so i decided to keep it as secret..

Im in the exact same position as you. I think they have some sort of idea im not completely straight, but think of it this way..Its not like a full on "im gay" or "i have a boyfriend" so without having anything major to declare, theres no need to 'cause a drama (assuming that the reaction will be as such).

I await the day when my parents ask me if im gay..Then I get to set the record straight...Kinda...haha.

I love you so much for that.

I know this isn't a dating thread, but you still owe me a coffee before you go offering your love out to others :P

[BlueVoltronRanger]

Just be honest to them, tell them how you really feel, let them know whats in your heart, and remember, no matter the outcome, the only person you have to give explanations is yourself, dont let others tell you who you really are

[Hadouken!]

Easier said than done my friend, easier said than done.

[Question]

I know this isn't a dating thread, but you still owe me a coffee before you go offering your love out to others :P

You don't get to give me ultimatums until I see a ring on my finger!

[RedJungleRanger]

Im in the exact same position as you. I think they have some sort of idea im not completely straight, but think of it this way..Its not like a full on "im gay" or "i have a boyfriend" so without having anything major to declare, theres no need to 'cause a drama (assuming that the reaction will be as such).

I await the day when my parents ask me if im gay..Then I get to set the record straight...Kinda...haha.

haha. :D

but, what if your parents will be mad about it? actually, my family would be shock if i tell them that i'm bi.. because i like more men than women.. thanks to Movies and Tv like for example- my dream boy is Hunter from Ninja Storm lol

by the way, want me to add you to my buddy list? hey, you can called me Jesse.. you must be Void *shake hands*

[Acatl]

my dream boy is Hunter from Ninja Storm lol


He's everyone's dream boy ;)

Well, he and Void...
*whistles not-so-innocently*

[Legendary.]

You know just cause I'm straight doesn't mean I don't like to be complimented by one sex. Jeez=[

COME ON PEOPLE.

Plus Void is handsome. Question...he's still in himself. If you get that.

[Hadouken!]

You don't get to give me ultimatums until I see a ring on my finger!

We're going to have to do something about that then aren't we!

haha. :D

but, what if your parents will be mad about it? actually, my family would be shock if i tell them that i'm bi.. because i like more men than women.. thanks to Movies and Tv like for example- my dream boy is Hunter from Ninja Storm lol

by the way, want me to add you to my buddy list? hey, you can called me Jesse.. you must be Void *shake hands*

My parents wont be allowed to be mad amout it, its not their life and its not exactly my choice, but its how I am..If they don't accept it then thats their deal...Thats my honest feelings about it.

Thanks Jesse, im Lee, as I mention on MSN haha.

He's everyone's dream boy ;)

Well, he and Void...
*whistles not-so-innocently*

I HIGHLY doubt that Hunter and I are really "dream guys" LOL, mainly 'cus...Well..C'mon..Its Hunter O_O *vomits*

You know just cause I'm straight doesn't mean I don't like to be complimented by one sex. Jeez=[

You want compliments!? Make a "compliment the person about you" thread :P

Plus Void is handsome. Question...he's still in himself. If you get that.

Aww, see, now I feel bad..Make that thread and you'll have compliments flying in :P and as for Question..I'll sort that out!

[Rebelde]

=_= I kinda came out... and..my mother and sister were all like "You can't know that for sure. You have to wait until you get older...blah blah!"

And NOW...they still think I'm straight =_= wtf is that?

[Hadouken!]

Most likely denial...Let them deal with it. You've done your part, now you can get on with your life knowing that you told them and if you find a guy, its all good..No explainin' to do lol

[Rebelde]

Lol, true that ^_^

[Green Mystic Ranger]

You told them, so just let it sink in, and then maybe they'll start to see you were telling the truth ^^.

[Rebelde]

Yes :3 I hope so.

But my mom is like, "Did you see those girls outside *wink wink*" and I am like "...ehm..ehe..yeah" >_> xD

[BlueVoltronRanger]

First of all im glad and proud of you, it took a lot of courage to let your heart open and that says a lot my friend :)

Like everyone else has said before, just let them sink in the news, i know it's your life but remember that they are also a part of it, so give them a lil room to come to terms with it, they will see eventually that being yourself is what makes you happy and complete, and above all they will understand that it is what's the important thing

[Acatl]

I HIGHLY doubt that Hunter and I are really "dream guys" LOL, mainly 'cus...Well..C'mon..Its Hunter O_O *vomits*
What? I like blonde boys with blue eyes!

Even if they dye it black...

=_= I kinda came out... and..my mother and sister were all like "You can't know that for sure. You have to wait until you get older...blah blah!"

And NOW...they still think I'm straight =_= wtf is that?

Congrats dude!

Now we can get married!:D

[Rebelde]

Lol thank you guys :3 (Even though it's like..months ago) xD But thank you all ^_^

[Acatl]

Lol thank you guys :3 (Even though it's like..months ago) xD But thank you all ^_^

Well, it's not like you told us then :p

[Question]

We're going to have to do something about that then aren't we!
Words! Nothing but sweet, sweet words!

[Hadouken!]

Words! Nothing but sweet, sweet words!

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1737/ringpt2.jpg

You wanna pay the delivery charge for this baby?

[Azure Kaiser]

Have high tastes there Lee. XD

[RainbowTempest]

Now THAT's a huge rock lol.

[Question]

I...

Void, you made me the happiest girl on the internet!

I do!

[Zeo]

I think the diamond could be just a LITTLE bigger, don't you think... I mean, lets not be cheap here.. LOL

[Hadouken!]

I...

Void, you made me the happiest girl on the internet!

I do!

*cries* i'm so happy, now we get that yacht your parents always promised!

I think the diamond could be just a LITTLE bigger, don't you think... I mean, lets not be cheap here.. LOL

Hey! Im a cost cutter, okay :P

[Zeo]

lol, i guess it'll do. ;)

[BlueVoltronRanger]

Set the date and then tell me, i can plan a nasty bachelor party

[Zeo]

I need more than just a ring.. I dont get dinner, or flowers, or nothing... wow... shady..

[Violet Wolf Ranger]

Is 'LGBT' more popular than 'GLBT'? I am all for it, it doesn't really matter but I think when they add more and more letters, it gets ridiculous. Soon it will be LGBTQ....RSUVWXYZ. Can't we just stick to one?

[Raditude]

I'm not gay, but I can relate to you guys.

I've had to come to terms with my own orientation awhile back. I'm attracted to jailbait girls. Girls who have hit puberty, but are below the age of consent in America. The technical definition is "Ephebophile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia)" or "Hebophile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia)."

People give me a lot of sh!t about it. Just like people probably at one time gave each of you sh!t for being gay, lesbian or whatever.

Thing is, just because I like younger girls, it doesn't mean I want to hurt them. I have Christian morals of waiting til marriage to have sex, and respecting ladies. I'm not out to get any young girl, nor will I take advantage of one. I just want a relationship. I do wish to find a girl who's family would trust me, and let her date.

I came out of the closet to most of my friends, and my mom. Some of my friends abandoned me. Some would throw that in my face later when they got mad at me for some unrelated reason, and start a lot of drama. Some of my own cousins have disowned me for it. My other friends think it's weird, but don't judge me. My mom, doesn't agree with it, but she understands, and still loves me.

Even though I came out, I'm still persecuted, and I feel like I'm still trapped in the closet. There's no one for me to love now that I'm 22, and Harlie (my childhood sweetheart) doesn't want anything to do with me. The law prevents me from pursuing relationships with girls I'm attracted to, so I'm stuck being alone for the foreseeable future. Knowing that I'll be alone is depressing.

[Violet Wolf Ranger]

As a gay man, I always had girls as friends but until college I had any friend that were lesbians. I had some friends that were bi in high school but eventually they identified as straight. Before I made friends with gay gals, I thought it would be hard, that there would conflicts as there I had with straight guys at the time.

We have talked before that on this forum, we can only find guys, or mostly guys that frequent here. When I was in a gay social group, mostly only guys came. Rarely were there were women who stayed. And once when I went to speak at a high school, a couple of gay boys came up to us and wondered if we got along with lesbians, they said they didn't and didn't want to.

I wonder what are your experiences with the opposite sex who are attracted to the same sex.

[BanditHiro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv7i2-fxjLk

[ThisSpaceForRent]

My best friend is a bisexual female and we get along spledidly...I mean, considering I just called her my best friend and all. n.n

[Xanatos]

As a gay man, I always had girls as friends but until college I had any friend that were lesbians. I had some friends that were bi in high school but eventually they identified as straight. Before I made friends with gay gals, I thought it would be hard, that there would conflicts as there I had with straight guys at the time.

We have talked before that on this forum, we can only find guys, or mostly guys that frequent here. When I was in a gay social group, mostly only guys came. Rarely were there were women who stayed. And once when I went to speak at a high school, a couple of gay boys came up to us and wondered if we got along with lesbians, they said they didn't and didn't want to.

I wonder what are your experiences with the opposite sex who are attracted to the same sex.

You're gay? Really? And here I thought Cock Ranger was just a clever pun.

[Hadouken!]

You're gay? Really? And here I thought Cock Ranger was just a clever pun.

You realise that the name refers to a ranger from Go-Onger/PR RPM?

Mature a little. kthxbai

[Green Mystic Ranger]

You realise that the name refers to a ranger from Go-Onger/PR RPM?

Mature a little. kthxbai

XD lol I don't think he knows what ''Cock'' means, other than...you know the private thing. Basicly it's a short name for Cockral, which most people use the short name. Cockral is a chicken thingy if you didn't know what that was :p.:eek:

[Xanatos]

You realise that the name refers to a ranger from Go-Onger/PR RPM?

Mature a little. kthxbai

I'm aware of what it means. I just got a little testy seeing this thread as one of the first ones I notice (I didn't even realize there were other gay Ranger fans like me) and one of the members is named COCK RANGER.

...COCK. RANGER.

[Hadouken!]

Yes, I got that the first time.

[Xanatos]

Yes, I got that the first time.

...And I'm the only person who sees this as an offensive caricature similar to blackface?

[ThisSpaceForRent]

Woah, I hadn't noticed that until now.


Yeeeeah, that's not the most innocent name choice.

[Question]

My god, I hope he's called Cock Ranger in RPM, and he's the most flamboyantly gay character since... well, RJ.

"Cock Ranger, Staff Attack!"

...oh god, please tell me his weapon's a staff.

[ThisSpaceForRent]

RJ's not gay...








He's pansexual. ^__~

[Question]

Pansexual?

Pizza... pans...?

[Rebelde]

Pansexual?

Pizza... pans...?

lol, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think pansexual are persons that gets attracted to people's personality. They don't care how the person look or which gender the person is. They are attracted to the person's personality.

As I said, correct me if I'm wrong XD

[RedJungleRanger]

My god, I hope he's called Cock Ranger in RPM, and he's the most flamboyantly gay character since... well, RJ. "Cock Ranger, Staff Attack!" ...oh god, please tell me his weapon's a staff.

lol.. maybe it is a staff then :D

[Betty]

I just got a little testy

Awry I'm sorry to hear that. Don't worry it doesn't make you any less of a man Honest

[BlueVoltronRanger]

RJ's not gay...








He's pansexual. ^__~

We all know what RJ loves...

*Cue the Bob Marley Song...Jammin! :D*

[Violet Wolf Ranger]

I am surprised this thread got added on two pages because of not my comment but my new screenname. It was Violet Wolf Ranger. I put that name in reference to the sixth RPM ranger---the sixth Go-onger is Go-On Gold and his partner engine is a chicken/helicopter---which we all know will never have this name. Now, I didn't pick the name because I am gay, I just thought it was absurd. Most dumb frat boys would think it's funny ("ha ha.. penis"), and just that. I find it funny and absurd (that anyone would even call themselves that).

If you guys think it is in poor taste, I might change it. Peer pressure and all.

And to answer that other person who said what else would I be but gay, I could be Bi or how TSFR pointed out 'Pan.'

[Hadouken!]

I don't think your name is a bad thing at all...It made people laugh and brought this thread back to life lol congrats.

[Xanatos]

If you guys think it is in poor taste, I might change it. Peer pressure and all.


In all honesty, I do find it horribly offensive, yes. I was actually feeling better about being a gay Ranger fan until I saw (an admin, apparently) who was gay and called himself COCK. RANGER.

[Hadouken!]

* GoldenCockRanger :P

[Xanatos]

* GoldenCockRanger :P

Making it a shiny color doesn't make it much better, seeing as that implies lubricant is being used in some way.

Yeah, why am I the only one who finds that really demeaning and offensive?

[Hadouken!]

What the hell? You're overthinking this just a little...

[Xanatos]

What the hell? You're overthinking this just a little...

No, I just don't...

Actually, I don't care. My goodness...I didn't even know there were any other gay Ranger fans, and now you're defending a gay person's username that's just asking for people to make jokes and is unnecessarily flamboyant?

...I'll...just leave. I guess only a certain type of gay person is supported in this thread.

[Question]

It could have been worse.

Go-On Gold could have been Go-On Big Black.

[Hadouken!]

No, I just don't...

Actually, I don't care. My goodness...I didn't even know there were any other gay Ranger fans, and now you're defending a gay person's username that's just asking for people to make jokes and is unnecessarily flamboyant?

...I'll...just leave. I guess only a certain type of gay person is supported in this thread.

Not only gay people are welcomed here *points to thread title*

I dont want to cause any conflict, but isn't it up to the individual as to how they act..If someone IS flamboyant, isn't that their business?

It was a joke and he sensitively offered to change his name. Which I don't personally think he should do unless he personally feels the need to change.

[Green Mystic Ranger]

Go-On Gold/ GoldenCockRanger is here to stay, so get used to it XD.

[Violet Wolf Ranger]

I think it depends on your point of view. To be clear, I want everyone to feel comfortable and welcomed. But if a person is not comfortable with what we are talking about, they can just go to another website.

[Rebelde]

In all honesty, I do find it horribly offensive, yes. I was actually feeling better about being a gay Ranger fan until I saw (an admin, apparently) who was gay and called himself COCK. RANGER.

I think you're overreacting :S

[ThisSpaceForRent]

Now, see... I can see where this guy is coming from. That name, while clever and punny, is a bit suspect. I don't think he should have to change it, though. I may not personally like it, but it's not my username, so...*shrugs*

[Xanatos]

I think it depends on your point of view. To be clear, I want everyone to feel comfortable and welcomed. But if a person is not comfortable with what we are talking about, they can just go to another website.

...Not once did I complain about what you were talking about. Do you read my posts?

[Violet Wolf Ranger]

I PMed him and he responded with this:

"As a major member who seems to want to make intelligent LGBT discussion, I think its hard to take you seriously when your name, regardless of what you're referencing [a penis]."

Even though he called me an idiot, I understand where he is coming from.

I am glad iVoid and others liked it. I guess it was a one-shot joke. I changed it because I should go the high road and classy. It doesn't look that great when I post stuff in the gallery. I really do want to make this an intelligent board but also we can have fun! We don't have to be boring.

So many people have been oppressed for being 'out there,' we have our right to express ourselves! But yeah, there is a time and a place I suppose.

[Rebelde]

well..let's see if I got it right.. cockranger is a character in go-onger? if so, I don't see what's so bad about it... I liked the name ^^

Anyways, Xanatos.. you're overreacting way to much. Gosh, if you can't take him seriously when he has that name.. then...ugh I have no words to describe it -.-

[Hadouken!]

He's banned now anyway...Not for the reason you'd expect. But let's just say, he was a familiar face that hardly anyone recognised lol

Soooo...I plan on coming out to my parent's soon. But i'm renting an apartment first so that I have somewhere to hide after I tell them, I definately don't wanna be living under the same roof as them after I do.

Any suggestions? Do I like say "yeh, im bi" and run off? Or tell them and wait for a reaction?

Btw, this isn't soon soon, im thinking like January, but I wanna think it over some.

[Rebelde]

Well..when I told my mom..I was a coward..I sent her a text mail :D I didn't dare to say it face to face :S

Anyways, if you don't wanna be as chicken as me.. I would try to give them a hint now and then..like.. so they understand that something is going on. And later..you try to have a serious conversation with them..and tell them. Not in 1.2.3 though :3 But like..give it time and in the ned, you tell them and try to stay calm :) Try giving some hints first..so the shock isn't as big as it would if you suddenly told them.

I know this wasn't much help..but yeah..that's what I would have done :3

[Murc]

He's banned now anyway...Not for the reason you'd expect. But let's just say, he was a familiar face that hardly anyone recognised lol

Soooo...I plan on coming out to my parent's soon. But i'm renting an apartment first so that I have somewhere to hide after I tell them, I definately don't wanna be living under the same roof as them after I do.

Any suggestions? Do I like say "yeh, im bi" and run off? Or tell them and wait for a reaction?

Btw, this isn't soon soon, im thinking like January, but I wanna think it over some.

Everyone that has come out to their parents has a different story of how the truth came out *lol*

Nonetheless, Everyone's story has some similarities to them. We are trying to take that first step forward and be true to ourselves...and sometimes it just needs a push in the right direction. The only way to tell your parents is to tell them yourself truthfully and honestly of course, for someone else to tell them, they might not take it the right way, they may explode, they might defend you. In any case, things might no work out the way you want them to, but they will hear it.

Just, quickly re-assure them that it isn't a phase....(I hated when my Dad asked me that) "No, Dad, I don't like girls, I like sex with men, it's much more fun!" You should have seen the look on my parents faces!! It was quite the sight to see!

I told my Aunt first, but then again, she has alot of gay friends, which totally worked out in my favor!!

Honestly, if you think your parents would completely lose their minds, then don't even say anything. It's not like your parents need to know every single detail of your lives...right? You are an adult, you are livng an adult life. It's not like your parents come to you and say. "Having sex with women/men is the only way to go!" They keep to themselves with their sex lives...(however if you hear them at night, they are still being quiet about it!) They don't tell you about their sexcapades, then why should you?

Meh, there's my rant....btw, Yes, I'm gay :D

[Violet Wolf Ranger]

Any suggestions? Do I like say "yeh, im bi" and run off? Or tell them and wait for a reaction?


I agree with Murc. You got to be true to yourself and it's your decision.

My coming out story is similar. After eating, I said, "I'm Bi," and I ran off to my room. 11 years later... My parents love me and respect me but still wish I wasn't gay and still think it is a choice, but I love myself and wouldn't have it any other way.

I am planning something for January too! I am moving to California because I have family there and is more likely I will find a job in television than in Miami. There is not much in TV in miami anymore, they are cutting more and more. And I got a support unit in Cali, all my relatives know i'm gay. They do here too but not the entire family, but of course the ones close to me. If they asked me, i'd tell them.

It takes too, you are constantly coming out. Believe or not.

When you meet someone and with circumstances depending on work, or friends of your parents, or neighbors, etc.---it is a new experience each time.


ALSO
when parents hear 'gay,' they think 'sex.' sounds silly but it is true. It made no sense to me when I was a kid, it made me feel dirty. My mom was like, 'but you haven't had sex with men!' I know I didn't. "Are you in love with a guy?" No... "So, you're not gay!" It's so funny how people who know nothing on the subject think they do. When straight kids like each other at 4, they aren't thinking about sex. Even the term 'gay boys' or 'gay girls' might sound bad to us, but that's because we were raised in a straight world were it isn't just 'gay boy,' it is 'butt pirate' and it isn't like that at all! little straight girls aren't 'little sluts' even thought they try to dress them up so in Halloween.

And when others wanted to study about gay life in college, I thought it was weird. I did honestly believe I didn't have to 'learn' anything more but now that I have spoken about my coming out experience to strangers and done political stuff and studied more and more about LGBT events in history and gender, there is a lot to learn and know.

[Greyson Stone]

I still haven't told my parents I'm bi. Personally, my sex life in none of their effin' business. Now, to be honest, I think my mom knows I'm not straight. Well, I've told her I've been hit on guys before, and have returned hitting on them back for fun (which, is true. hitting on guys is rather fun :D). She's asked me flat out several times if I was gay, and, I've answered honestly that I'm not, though she's never asked if I was Bi. If she ever asked me that, I would honestly tell her that I was. There is no point in trying to hide it, but unless someone asks me about my sexuality, I don't see the point in barking it out. The only reason why I haven't been up-front blunt with my mom is because, well, she really doesn't need to know what I do in the bedroom with whomever, but if she ever asked the question if I was Bi, why should I hide it?

Though... I have been thinking about telling my sister, but she's known for her big mouth, and I've already had one of my friends accidentally blab my sexuality to people, not that I really cared too much... but, if because of her it got around to my mom before I had a chance to tell her, well... that's something I don't want to happen. I want it to happen on my terms.

[Green Mystic Ranger]

Lol I haven't told anyone yet, only a few friends. But I suggest you wait until you are ready, and don't rush into anything. Take your time and think over what your going to say, don't just come out and say ''Guess what? I'm bi'' lol. Just say how you feel and that you have feelings for both guys and girls. I'm sure that'll come across better to them than just saying it lol. For me, January is probably the best time for it, because it's just after christmas and they'll have time to reflect on what you said. ^_^ But if they don't like the idea right away, give them time and I'm sure they'll get used to it. After all their your parents and they wouldn't really be parents if they couldn't understand how their kid feels right?:D

[Hadouken!]

Thanks guys, the advice is just what I needed and gave me some real time to put things into perspective.

I've decided I am still going to tell them, I feel I owe them enough to tell them now before i'm spotted out with some guy or rumours fly around. I live around ALOT of family members so stories spread fast and i'd rather be the one setting the record straight. I don't want them hearing loose gossip about me and having to decide what it is on their own.

My parents are my parents and even if they don't accept (I personally don't think my dad will) who I am, then that is their problem. Same goes for the rest of my family. It's not a phase, i'm bi and thats that.

Phew, random rant there...But thanks again, the stories and advice really helps and makes me feel way more confident about January :D

[Green Mystic Ranger]

Yeah I'm not to thrilled about trying to get my father to understand. I guess mothers understand more about these things hehe.

[Violet Wolf Ranger]

Yeah I'm not to thrilled about trying to get my father to understand. I guess mothers understand more about these things hehe.

It depends. My mom is the one that has the most problem with my sexual orientation. People find this the strangest. My dad is more understanding, he went to see Brokeback Mountain with me! My mom is from Guatemala and from another generation, she sees it as a choice and rather I get married with the 'right' girl. I told her i would if he had it where it counts.

iVoid, I am glad you made a decision. I always tell people it is their decision to tell their parents or not. Some people you get scared how they might react and in the end, they might be much more understanding than you thought. But if you don't wanna come out, that's fine. It's your decision, like I said. It is awful when it is spilled by someone else. Some people say that were 'pushed' out. Like their mom knew they were and just said they were and urged them to be honest about it. This can be damaging too.

My maternal grandma gave birth to ten kids, my mom's family multiples like bunnies. It is a gossipter's grapevine. Most of my mom's family I have not been public about it. They are super religious and kinda stubborn. If they know by rumor, I don't care. The ones that know for sure is my favorite cousin and her brother. As for my dad's side, everyone knows and everyone is fine with it.

I came out at 15. I am 26 now. The ones I told personally were my mom, dad, sister, her ex-husband, nephew (he's 21), niece (she's 18), paternal grandmother, and handful of cousins (I have 1 gay cousin). My nephew, he figured it out and I told him, I think he was eleven. He wasn't comfortable at first, he doesn't like to hear me saying a quarterback is cute while he watches a game. My niece, when I came out, she was 7, I thought she was too young to know. Now we are very close and I think she was 12 when I told her. She is very understanding. she knew drama was going on between my mom and I but she never really thought of my orientation and didn't suspect anything.

[Greyson Stone]

I personally couldn't care one bit what my dad thinks about me being Bi, it's my mom I'm worried about. I don't know how she would react, and she would probably start to blame herself for the fact of my sexuality, even though she had nothing to do with it.

God, I hate having who thinks everything is her fault sometimes...

[Violet Wolf Ranger]

I hate hearing that everyone's parents are difficult and that my experiences aren't unique and we all face the same difficulties but it is true. My mom thinks its her fault too, but it is stuff you gotta get over and sometimes put up with. My mom bought me stuff like My little Pony, Rainbow Brite and Care Bears and blames herself. She once try showing me that ponies were for girls and GIJoe was for boys. even though I had thundercats and GI Joe, I still wanted my little pony. I cherish my childhood, I love that I could have that. I even had my own rainbow brite birthday party at age 5, it was awesome, i love colors.

[Violet Wolf Ranger]

I am gonna keep ranting until ya'll respond.

I don't think I know it all, nor to claim that I do.

:p:p:p:D:D:D:D

There is this book by Joe Kort, a couple's therapist and psychologist. It is called "10 smart things gay men can do to find real love" which can be considered a bit offputting but not to me, it is a great book. He says we men are conditioned to hate each other and be in constant competition, it starts with our fathers. I feel that competition most of the time with one of cousins, who I consider a brother. Anyhoo, he goes on to say that it is ridiculous that after that we then go on to want relationships with men. He is not saying it is wrong, but how are we expected to have long-lasting relationships if we were taught that acting feminine is evil and to compete with men. To get to the road for long-lasting relationship, he suggests breaking down those walls. Being emotional and expressing yourself isn't a feminine or masculine thing. Even though we are out or not out gay people, we can still be sexist and homophobic.

[Violet Wolf Ranger]

http://yesinstitute.org/


Organization I speak for. They are mostly for communication than preaching. Not much preaching. More about making sure any teen doesn't commit suicide. 30% of suicides are committed by gay youth. And 80% of straight boys are harassed as gay. They team up with unlikely organizations like churches and the such.

[RedJungleRanger]

Did anyone heard the news about Clay Aiken being coming out of the closet as gay? :) it make me happy! also, Lindsay Lohan is now lesbian which is awesome.

anyways, i might will tell my mom and my dad that i'm bisexual very soon but i fear that i might not tell my sister that i'm bi because she don't believe it.. like for example- sometimes when we are chat and her face would be puzzled or something like that.

[Leo Tate]

Did anyone heard the news about Clay Aiken being coming out of the closet as gay? :) it make me happy! also, Lindsay Lohan is now lesbian which is awesome.

anyways, i might will tell my mom and my dad that i'm bisexual very soon but i fear that i might not tell my sister that i'm bi because she don't believe it.. like for example- sometimes when we are chat and her face would be puzzled or something like that.

Telling your parents that you are bi or gay is something that alot of people have troubles doing. It took me until i was 18 to tell my parents. Its something you want to make sure you are ready to do before you do it. If your not ready then don't do it. If your ready then do it. As for your sister. If she doesn't believe it then that's her choice. You have to remember that when some one you care about tells you something like this your not going to necessarily want to believe its true. If you do tell her give her some time. Eventually she'll come to grips with it and accept it and start believing it. My older sister was the same way she didn't want to believe it at first then after a while she accepted the fact that, that is just who I am.

EDIT:
Please forgive my rudeness. I forgot to introduce my self here. I did it in the main intros area but yeah. The names Leo Tate, call me Leo. I'm 21 openly bisexual. And currently in a relationship with the man of my dreams.

[Violet Wolf Ranger]

Please forgive my rudeness. I forgot to introduce my self here. I did it in the main intros area but yeah. The names Leo Tate, call me Leo. I'm 21 openly bisexual. And currently in a relationship with the man of my dreams.

It is okay, Leo.

Like I have said, feel free to express yourself. Everyone is going to have their opinions on how to come out or if they should. But in the end, it is the individual's decision.

Did anyone heard the news about Clay Aiken being coming out of the closet as gay? :) it make me happy! also, Lindsay Lohan is now lesbian which is awesome.

anyways, i might will tell my mom and my dad that i'm bisexual very soon but i fear that i might not tell my sister that i'm bi because she don't believe it.. like for example- sometimes when we are chat and her face would be puzzled or something like that.

As for Clay Aiken, finally he is being true to himself. If you are going to be in the limelight, be truthful and don't care what people say.

SPD Fury has pictures of Christian from RBD. He denied being gay for years and now he is married and out and happy. He suffers from anxiety and I have had too, so I can understand not wanting to tell. But he was kinda obvious with different color hair all the time (pink on pink) and not to mention, a yellow vest with tails in the back!!!! Now, come on. A str8 guy can be flamboyant some times but not even White Snake would wear that.

[Leo Tate]

It is okay, Leo.

Like I have said, feel free to express yourself. Everyone is going to have their opinions on how to come out or if they should. But in the end, it is the individual's decision.


See I don't actually ever tell people. "Come out" Or "Don't come out". I give them advise based on the experiences i have had with that issue. There's alot of things one has to consider when it comes to coming out and telling some one your bi, gay or what ever. But you are right in the end it i the individual's decision on what to do.


If you all don't mind giving some help to some one who you don't know that well. I kinda need some advise on a issue. For the past few weeks my bf has been working all hours of the night and day. Pretty much. He goes into work at 8 AM and doesn't come home until 3:30 or 4:30 Am. I don't want to call his work and ask them if he is working until those times each night because I don't want him to end up getting pissed at me. But my mom posed the possibility that he might be cheating on me to me the other day. I love him with all my heart he is the kindest,sweetest man you ever want. I asked him the other day why he had been working so many hours and he got defensive and we got in a huge fight. Does anyone have any advise on what I can do. I'm not ready to accuse him of cheating on me.

[Violet Wolf Ranger]

See I don't actually ever tell people. "Come out" Or "Don't come out". I give them advise based on the experiences i have had with that issue. There's alot of things one has to consider when it comes to coming out and telling some one your bi, gay or what ever. But you are right in the end it i the individual's decision on what to do.

Me too, me neither--just my experiences and it is their decision like I said. I didn't phrase it well I guess.

[Murc]

If you all don't mind giving some help to some one who you don't know that well. I kinda need some advise on a issue. For the past few weeks my bf has been working all hours of the night and day. Pretty much. He goes into work at 8 AM and doesn't come home until 3:30 or 4:30 Am. I don't want to call his work and ask them if he is working until those times each night because I don't want him to end up getting pissed at me. But my mom posed the possibility that he might be cheating on me to me the other day. I love him with all my heart he is the kindest,sweetest man you ever want. I asked him the other day why he had been working so many hours and he got defensive and we got in a huge fight. Does anyone have any advise on what I can do. I'm not ready to accuse him of cheating on me.

This is possibly one of the most difficult situations to deal with if you do not know what to do.

I'll ask you a few things, then try and work through a possible solution.

How old are you both?
What does he do?
What do you do?
How long have you both been together?

I'll have more questions once those are answered :)

It's easy to find out of someone is cheating on you. Asking them straight out will 80% of the time lead to a fight, which you don't want, so I don't think going that route is best either!

[Leo Tate]

I'm 21 and he's 19
He is a Chiefs assistant hes been cooking since he was eight years old and there helping making him an official professional
Me I do to many things to list. Right now I'm working as a mover.
And we've been off and on for the past year and a half now.

[Violet Wolf Ranger]

I said I was not going to just give out what to do, but I already was going to post something twice about your situation Leo and decided to cancel.

All I want to say is that communication is important and accusing him of cheating is not advisable at all, it will make things worse if he has already been defensive.

I suggest reading this book, I am not advertising this, it is just a great book. It has great male relationship insights in it.
10 Smart Things Gay Men Can Do to Find Real Love (http://www.amazon.com/Smart-Things-Find-Real-Love/dp/1555838987/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1222294452&sr=8-2)

Before that, I suggest expressing how you feel and your worries and that you love him and you just want to be truthful. He might accuse you of not trusting him, but just tell him you are concerned. Just a suggestion, of course.

[RedJungleRanger]

Telling your parents that you are bi or gay is something that alot of people have troubles doing. It took me until i was 18 to tell my parents. Its something you want to make sure you are ready to do before you do it. If your not ready then don't do it. If your ready then do it. As for your sister. If she doesn't believe it then that's her choice. You have to remember that when some one you care about tells you something like this your not going to necessarily want to believe its true. If you do tell her give her some time. Eventually she'll come to grips with it and accept it and start believing it. My older sister was the same way she didn't want to believe it at first then after a while she accepted the fact that, that is just who I am. EDIT: Please forgive my rudeness. I forgot to introduce my self here. I did it in the main intros area but yeah. The names Leo Tate, call me Leo. I'm 21 openly bisexual. And currently in a relationship with the man of my dreams. it's ok. i'm 26 and still kept my secret as bisexual since i was 7. yeah, long story because i had a crush on my mom's friend's nephew but, next day after that i was cried! my sister was asked me what's wrong with me but i don't say anything and it's true! because i like him but i don't know where he lives now :(

[Leo Tate]

Its always hard to know that some one you like and could even love is no longer around. I've been there. You just have to figure out a way that works for you to deal with it. For me I handled not having the one I love around in many different ways from hooking up for one night stands to starving myself. Not something I would recommend doing by the way. I almost killed my self starving myself not having him around.

As for the problem I asked for advice on. That issue was resolved when I discovered an Archived chat he had with one of my only friends. Telling her what has been going on and why he has been working so often.

[kyfm]

im not gay or bi but guys have hit on me a few times. also i was raped about 10 years by another classmate he tricked me into playing his snes then he did it he raped a lot of other handicapped kids before i spoke up. he was sent to military boot camp but was still allowed into my high school. i hate that guy. i dont know why he didnt go to juvie. none of his friends knew about it. it kinda made me hate gays for a while but im cool with u guys as long as u dont hit on me. if any of u have a myspace or facebook u can add me i have a few gay and bi guys but a lot more les and bi girls i just want friends

www.myspace.com/2003k
http://www.new.facebook.com/profile.php?v=feed&id=1073041191

[Violet Wolf Ranger]

im not gay or bi but guys have hit on me a few times. also i was raped about 10 years by another classmate he tricked me into playing his snes then he did it he raped a lot of other handicapped kids before i spoke up. he was sent to military boot camp but was still allowed into my high school. i hate that guy. i dont know why he didnt go to juvie. none of his friends knew about it. it kinda made me hate gays for a while but im cool with u guys as long as u dont hit on me.

I am glad you have brighten your attitude from hating gay people. It is good that you acknowledge that you don't like it when they hit on you. I don't think you are saying this, but it is a popular misconception that all gay men want to hit on others or convert them. Yet, when I was in college, many straight men wanted to 'find me the right woman' or in other words convert me to be heterosexual.

I really do feel for you for your experience. I regret it happened. I never been through that but I did have a friend that I had relations with, that was sexually abused as a child and even though it is not the same, not blaming yourself is key and understanding that it is just that sole offender and not placing blame on am entire group is important. Meaning, just because one gay man did something bad to you, doesn't mean it cancels out possible friendships with other gay men.

[Violet Wolf Ranger]

Doesn't matter who ya'll gonna vote for.

Tonight with the potential vice-presidents debate...

Joe Bidden says that he and Obama are for same-sex civil unions, he is for rights, medical rights, and etc. Now, he did say he is not for gay marriage because it is up to religions and groups for their definition of 'marriage.' It was a smart thing to say. He said people in love, they should get the same rights if they are homosexual or heterosexual. He did have some trouble saying heterosexual, probably he hasn't said it a lot. That is fine, most heterosexual people don't say it a lot.

Palin was very very careful with her words. She said that she has friends that wouldn't agree with her decisions. She did said she was for certain rights, but her wording was beating around the bush. She certainly shows she is like most of America that has to be careful with that they say. She didn't even say the word 'gay' I think. She couldn't say she had a gay friend or gay relative. I had a feeling she had the feeling to say something, that she almost did say she had a gay friend, but she went around it. I got so mad about the feeling around this country that I broke my coat hanger.

[Violet Wolf Ranger]

Have you guys seen Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist?

[RedJungleRanger]

not yet, i will wait for this movie to be release on DVD. I love Michael Cera. he was in Juno where he was shirtless which it give me goosebumps! :D

[Violet Wolf Ranger]

It's a good movie, some movies I see in the theater I don't get on DVD but this one for sure!

[kyfm]

I am glad you have brighten your attitude from hating gay people. It is good that you acknowledge that you don't like it when they hit on you. I don't think you are saying this, but it is a popular misconception that all gay men want to hit on others or convert them. Yet, when I was in college, many straight men wanted to 'find me the right woman' or in other words convert me to be heterosexual.

I really do feel for you for your experience. I regret it happened. I never been through that but I did have a friend that I had relations with, that was sexually abused as a child and even though it is not the same, not blaming yourself is key and understanding that it is just that sole offender and not placing blame on am entire group is important. Meaning, just because one gay man did something bad to you, doesn't mean it cancels out possible friendships with other gay men.

well i think he is bi i dunno really what he is.i think he was a guy with a sick mind. its been 10 yrs. and well im pissed about his punishment heck my high school has been through 4 principals in the last 6 years i doubt the new one who replaced the one who was there the last 4 yrs who replaced the one who was there the previous 2 yrs who replaced the one who was there for 35 yrs. a lot of teachers quit/retired cuz of budget/pay cuts. also one teacher was gay although he never came out to the school for obvious reasons a lot of students knew he was. i wonder do u guys and gals post anywhere else on rangertalk

[Violet Wolf Ranger]

I usually do when I have updates or changes to the websites, or whenever there is new news that hasnt been otherwise already posted.

[kyfm]

did u read my entire post theres some more there besides that i was talking about everyone who usually posts here in this thread. i also have many friends on myspace/facebook who have gay/bi/les/trans friends and totally love and support em. cuz so many of em are trying to get rid of that stupid gay marriage ban. its their chose who they marry but doesnt change them as a person at all.