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RangerDCMA
11-10-2008, 02:05 PM
I see a lot of hate on this season but I actually for the most part enjoyed it.
Maybe that's just me, but did anyone else like it?

Some of the good points for me were

Will

This guy alone made the series watchable for me. He pulled off a few decent one-liners and seemed to be more of a leader than Mack was.
The fact he single handedly defeated Kamdor was a nice touch too

Once a Ranger

While the unexplained aging of Thrax bothers me it was a good team up for me. All my fave rangers from each previous season appeared in it and seeing Adam back, with his own theme, (Well it certainly wasn't the MMPR theme so we may as well call it that) was pretty awesome

Mercury Ranger

Well not Tyzonn himself so much, but the suit. Boukenger got a real nice colour scheme going for that one

No reluctant Red Ranger

As apposed to previous seasons in which the Red Ranger wasn't sure he wanted to be a Ranger at all, Mack actually wanting to be part of it was refreshing.

Mack being an Android

While it was predictable he'd become real by the end of the series it was still a nice idea to have a Ranger not be who he was thought to be. And Mack's reactions to his Dad were priceless

The end of the Fearcats/The end of Moltor

For me these were some of the most brutal deaths in PR.
The Fearcats being practically sliced in half and the tone of the music for that final battle was something not seen a lot.

And Flurious' Sub Zero fatality was a nice touch, especially on his own brother


To be honest I don't think there's been a season I haven't enjoyed, but there were some moments of OO that really showed it was an at the least
alright season

E.K.
11-10-2008, 02:20 PM
Honestly, i REALLY don't understand all the hate placed on PROO. I saw nearly all of it, it still rules IMO!!! Maybe people hate the fact that Mack is technically the youngest Ranger ever; yes, even younger than Justin; since he only had 2 years of existance as a robot under his belt. I know the OO Rangers had a habit of quitting a lot, but at least they got back into it after some wise words. And the whole Pinochio style ending probably is what people really despise about the whole show. Or maybe it was Miratrix and Dax never reconciling. But anyway, i love PROO and i really think it doesn't deserve even half the hate it gets from internet fans.

ForeverBlue
11-10-2008, 02:47 PM
I liked PROO alot, its a very good season.

Don't get why alot of people didn't like PROO at all...perhaps it has to do with the uneccesary explosions or something.

RedJungleRanger
11-10-2008, 04:19 PM
I like PROO as well because of Rose, Tyzonn, Will and Mack even the awesome megazords, weapons, battlizer, Sentiel(sp?) Knight, Moltor, etc. Once A Ranger was great.

Kawaii Japan Lover
11-10-2008, 06:34 PM
Not for me it wasn't. Though I couldn't stand Will and Tyzonn I liked the jewel search plot and the villains weren't too bad either. I, like you DCMA, don't really have a season I hate, they all appeal to me in some way or fashion just some more than others.

Gouki_Akumaranger_Oroichi
11-10-2008, 06:53 PM
PROO was an alright season, the villians were good, the characters had a decent development and OaR was one of the best PR crossovers I've seen even, though I too had problem with Thrax's age continuity. But at the end of the day I feel it could've been better, especially the finale.

PhoenixRenja
11-10-2008, 07:49 PM
Was operation overdrive really that bad? no. IMO it was worse. first of all i believe that disney didnt handle very well the theme of boukenger (that being the adventure). second i think that the anniversary episode wasnt that good... it was cool but not great. i hated how they place thrax in continuity. The lines and dialogs in proo are one of the worst in all the seasons (although some episodes were really good). as for the cool fights and the death of the fearcats give credit to super sentai footage. as for the explosions blame disney. if disney didnt use all these fireworks they could easily save money for yeah even a team up with previous ranger team. but whatever.As for the fact that mack was an android well i believe that this wasnt really necessary. not to mention the theme song which i hated although some people like it. one of the few things i enjoyed in proo was the relationship of mack and his father it was cool to see the reactions between father and son.

RangerDCMA
11-10-2008, 07:57 PM
I forgot about the theme.

While it wasn't the best, I actually thought it was really catchy

And the whole five fingers reaching for the sky thing holds true seeing as only 5 of the 6 six rangers help up the Octavian Chalace while Rose read the spell

Besides MMPR was mainly just Go Go Power Rangers, so you can't really say OO's theme lacked good lyrics

PhoenixRenja
11-10-2008, 08:04 PM
I forgot about the theme.

While it wasn't the best, I actually thought it was really catchy

And the whole five fingers reaching for the sky thing holds true seeing as only 5 of the 6 six rangers help up the Octavian Chalace while Rose read the spell

Besides MMPR was mainly just Go Go Power Rangers, so you can't really say OO's theme lacked good lyrics

mmpr was mainly awesome badass music and not lyrics.

deathstrike
11-11-2008, 01:54 AM
To me it had a lot of potential that wasn't properly used. Way to many continuity errors, little character development, bland rangers, except Will and "i'm never wrong" Rose. And most importantly WAY TOO MANY EXPLOSIONS!!! Unnecessary ones at that.

Red Master
11-11-2008, 02:59 AM
Wow usually its a carp load of post like "OO is teh sukzors".Im glad to see some people defend it.Especially from people who aren't in the OO lovers group.

deathstrike
Way to many continuity errors

Which ones?...oh wait i know where your going with this,Thrax isn't a continuity error.

Night_Fang
11-11-2008, 04:06 AM
I don't see why this season gets so much hate. Some seasons are way worse than OO. Yes they're too many explosions. Blame Kalish and Disney for that cause they like the explosions lol. But it was nice to get a season that didn't focus on just the red ranger and the sixth ranger. Will had some good moments. As for people who complain about the finale I get that. I didn't like it either. Out of all the villians they pick Flurious to be the big bad at the end? The others were all way cooler than him.

DaiRed
11-11-2008, 04:31 AM
Was it that bad? YES! YES! A THOUSAND TIMES YES! Disney took the awesome concept Boukenger had with treasure hunting, adventure, and 4 villain factions and this crap came out. The only good thing out of this season was Once a Ranger, and there are still things wrong with that (Adam, Tori, Kira, Bridge, and Xander were all great though. If only they were the OO team instead the others.).

Besides MMPR was mainly just Go Go Power Rangers, so you can't really say OO's theme lacked good lyrics

Let's not forget that during the second season, there was an extended theme song that played during the Thunder Megazord formation. And it extended even further in Ninja Quest Part IV when they fought Rito with the new Megazord. They just didn't put it in the opening.

"They've got a power and force that you've never seen before.
They've got the ability to morph and to even up the score.
No one can ever take them down
The power lies on their si-yi-yi-yide!"

Now that's a better theme than OO had.

Out of all the villians they pick Flurious to be the big bad at the end? The others were all way cooler than him.

They had to keep it like Boukenger where Gajah, Flurious's Sentai Counterpart, gained a new form, which was what Flurious turned into when he used the Corona.

NekoLLX
11-11-2008, 04:44 AM
god i hate the haters who say "it wasnt Bokenger! its suxor"

No it was not Bokenger, It was Power Rangers. Stop comparing it to Bokenger. ITs power Rangers Rate it on its own merits not Bokenger.

and OO was a nice season damn it! I love Macs entire develpment "i want to be a red ranger"

"I'm jsut a robot"

LEONARDO
11-11-2008, 02:45 PM
PROO was great season.the story and rangers was very good.

E.K.
11-11-2008, 03:10 PM
Remember that i had said i only had managed to watch so far episodes 1 to 30? Well, i'm very glad to report that this morning; thanks to Youtube; i watched the final episodes 31 and 32.:) I loved the whole Mack storyline of him thinking that he's expendable because he's a robot but when his "father" actually hands over the jewels to Flurious because he truly does love Mack as a true son, their hug was so sweet. And he is also reminded that he is also not expendable in the eyes of his fellow Rangers. Flurious in his Corona Aurora form was quite the enemy, able to deflect many of the Rangers' attacks and Mack sacrificing himself to defeat Flurious for good was very noble, which made his "Pinnochio"-style transformation into a human by wearing the Corona Aurora all the more sweet. And i definately loved all the hints at Mack/Rose; the first being that Rose was the first to see Mack after he destroyed Flurious now "dead" and her look of shock really sold me on that one, the second being that when Mack realizes that he's become human, he wants everyone to feel his heartbeat but the only name he specifically wants to do it is Rose. I loved the idea of Mack/Rose ever since their first scene together in the jeep where Mack is telling Rose that her and the others using their new powers was very amazing. I guess i'll have to depend on fanfiction if i wanna see any kind of closure on my favorite OO couples, them being Mack/Rose, Tyzonn/Ronny, and Dax/Miratrix. Overall, after finally seeing the full package, i still say PROO is a great show which doesn't really deserve even half the hate it keeps getting from fans on the net, but as the old saying goes, "To each their own." Just gotta keep my love for it alive now and forever.;)

SilverNinjaRanger
11-11-2008, 03:41 PM
OO isn't as bad as the majority of the fandom make out. Its low on my list (2nd bottom) because i didn't enjoy it that much.

Titanium Ranger
11-11-2008, 03:56 PM
Operation Overdrive was a good season far as I'm concerned. My only beefs with this season were the explosions, the crapass music and bad acting mostly on Will, Ronny and Tyzonn's part and sometimes even with Rose. I'm really not a fan of Will. If it's a defect or something medical, I'll take this back but that grin that was always plastered on his face made him all the more annoying. I suppose he was trying to play out the cocky character who was always sure of himself? If he was, he rarely showed it through his actions after the first few episodes. It was just an annoying aspect to him.

Other than that and the fact that ALL the villains had gruff, double-tone voices and minor differences in personality, OO was great. The suits definitely attract you and the concept was awesome. I loved the whole adventurer theme they carried over from Bouken - gave you something new to look forward to with each episode. It could've been expanded upon but it was good enough in it's own sense. Mack's storyline near the end was amazing.. him being an android, going suicidal. Considering it's a kid's show, it was great to see this somewhat mature (seemed like that to me) theme be applied to PR. So yeah, all in all, I think the haters somewhat exaggerate on it when they say it wasn't good.

TokuFan
11-11-2008, 08:41 PM
god i hate the haters who say "it wasnt Bokenger! its suxor"

No it was not Bokenger, It was Power Rangers. Stop comparing it to Bokenger. ITs power Rangers Rate it on its own merits not Bokenger.

and OO was a nice season damn it! I love Macs entire develpment "i want to be a red ranger"

"I'm jsut a robot"

I don't care if Power Rangers ditches the BAD storylines but ditching a great sentai like Boukenger is unacceptable. People always say Boukenger was hard to adapt. If you go back and watch Lightspeed or something that's a lot like Boukenger. Boukenger's what Power Rangers should be.And if you can't squeeze the storyline into 32 episodes then just have the team be from SPD.

Will was pretty cool and Once A Ranger was the sole highlight of the series.

Tidus21
11-11-2008, 09:15 PM
Operation Overdrive was horrible, I almost stopped watching PR all together because of the show. Once a Ranger saved me to the end of the season and Jungle Fury has just been a blast and brought disney's crediability in adapting up. Jungle Fury brought the same impact and brought the awesomeness that Gekiranger did.

Overdrive did not due that for Boukenger and didnt even live up to its own hype. Will was the only ranger that seemed ok, Tyzonn was horrible and he seemed like he never did fit in. Rose was hot but other than that she seemed to be in the background. Ronny was like a overdone Taylor, Dax...well it was a bad attempt. Mac was a good ranger but i was not really fond of him.

The theme was just unbearable, it worked with Mystic Force and I liked it but PR has always been the pop rock style and im glad the Jungle Fury has a good theme.

I honestly think Disney got a bit cocky and full of themselves for having such an easy and productive time while owning the series and OO failed so they brought their A game for Jungle Fury.

On my list OO is dead last on it, at least wildforce had danny and max who i connected with as characters.

Rebelde
11-11-2008, 09:29 PM
I LOVED OO. Seriously, it was awesome :D Of course..I got a little tired of all the megazord fights, but I still loved the season. It was awesomeness :D And the final was GREAT IMO ^^

Chris3123
11-11-2008, 10:01 PM
bad acting mostly on Will, Ronny and Tyzonn's part and sometimes even with Rose.

No mention of Dax? Gareth Yuen was the worst actor on that show, IMO, followed by Dwayne Cameron (Tyzonn).

Tidus21
11-11-2008, 10:23 PM
Two things that I have found out about the whole OO and Boukenger arguement is that many users who have watched OO and Boukenger do say OO just down right sucks and doesnt live up to Boukenger.

Those who dislike us users of comparing OO and Boukenger while openly complaining of our usage of Boukenger in our arguements of how it is better than OO...havent watched Boukenger or even gave it a chance.

I suggest that those who havent seen Boukenger or think OO is better without even seening Boukenger to go to tvnihon download it and watch it to see why we users say what we say. I highly reccomend it, it does take a while to get into the series as do all seasons but it is good. And if you get into it and see some of the other seasons of Sentai you will notice that in overall Disney has done a good job of adapting the seasons and totally dropped the ball of adapting boukenger.

DaiRed
11-12-2008, 12:07 AM
Operation Overdrive was horrible, I almost stopped watching PR all together because of the show. Once a Ranger saved me to the end of the season and Jungle Fury has just been a blast and brought disney's crediability in adapting up. Jungle Fury brought the same impact and brought the awesomeness that Gekiranger did.

Overdrive did not due that for Boukenger and didnt even live up to its own hype. Will was the only ranger that seemed ok, Tyzonn was horrible and he seemed like he never did fit in. Rose was hot but other than that she seemed to be in the background. Ronny was like a overdone Taylor, Dax...well it was a bad attempt. Mac was a good ranger but i was not really fond of him.

The theme was just unbearable, it worked with Mystic Force and I liked it but PR has always been the pop rock style and im glad the Jungle Fury has a good theme.

I honestly think Disney got a bit cocky and full of themselves for having such an easy and productive time while owning the series and OO failed so they brought their A game for Jungle Fury.

On my list OO is dead last on it, at least wildforce had danny and max who i connected with as characters.

Quoted for truth.

Red Master
11-12-2008, 12:20 AM
Tidus21
Those who dislike us users of comparing OO and Boukenger while openly complaining of our usage of Boukenger in our arguements of how it is better than OO...havent watched Boukenger or even gave it a chance.

Iv'e never been able to watch past the 18-19 episodes of boukenger.I have yet to find this supposed "awsomeness" of it.I found the same number of Gekiranger episodes to be vastly more interesting.

Maybe i should start bitching about how RPM silver isn't anything like Miu.

NekoLLX
god i hate the haters who say "it wasnt Bokenger! its suxor"

No it was not Bokenger, It was Power Rangers. Stop comparing it to Bokenger. ITs power Rangers Rate it on its own merits not Bokenger.

QFT.

Tidus21
11-12-2008, 01:20 AM
Iv'e never been able to watch past the 18-19 episodes of boukenger.I have yet to find this supposed "awsomeness" of it.I found the same number of Gekiranger episodes to be vastly more interesting.

Maybe i should start bitching about how RPM silver isn't anything like Miu.



QFT.

Like i said earlier it does take a while for the season to really get going and usually its around episode 25ish that it really starts to get interesting and the big overall storyline is revealed. With Boukenger, Gekiranger and GO Onger i usually wait around for a bit for the early episodes, im not in a total rush or need to get them. but when it hits that mark I just cant wait for the next episode. Right now its Kamen Rider Kiva...its turning out to be an awesome season.

Izout
11-12-2008, 06:03 PM
You know, reading this thread, there's a question I really want to ask the Boukenger fans, WHAT adventure theme in Boukenger? What did anything the Boukengers did qualify as a adventure? Not only did none of the their villains ever pose any threat or danger, but all of their Precious were all conviently located in Tokyo with nine times of ten in the exact same forest so it wasn't like they ever had to go anywhere.

I just don't see how anyone can say Boukenger handled the adventure theme better when they never even adventure at all.

Tidus21
11-12-2008, 06:39 PM
You know, reading this thread, there's a question I really want to ask the Boukenger fans, WHAT adventure theme in Boukenger? What did anything the Boukengers did qualify as a adventure? Not only did none of the their villains ever pose any threat or danger, but all of their Precious were all conviently located in Tokyo with nine times of ten in the exact same forest so it wasn't like they ever had to go anywhere.

I just don't see how anyone can say Boukenger handled the adventure theme better when they never even adventure at all.

Boukenger wasnt just an adventure dealing with the Destination, it was the adventure of relying on others and challanging the best(masumi), the adventure of learning one's past(Natsuki), the adventure of trusting others and being their friends(Shouta), the adventure of love and learning to understand others feelings(Sakura), the adventure of becoming part of a team and working together(Eiji), and the adventure of moving on from the past and helping those in need with their adventures(Akashi)

Searching for treasure in different parts of Japan where the early civilization was so i mean it would be pointless to search elsewhere if the civilization made its home on japan...

Being a Power Ranger itself was an adventure.

The Adventure of protecting the precious and keeping the secret of where it was hidden.

I think where OO failed in its interpretation of adventure is that it only considered the Destination and only until the last episode considered the adventure of each ranger within themselves. Boukenger did that throughout the season with each ranger having their own moments. The only real moments when OO considered the adventure that takes place within the ranger is when Boukenger footage demanded it to(Will and Tyzonn most notably)

Rebelde
11-12-2008, 07:27 PM
GOSH, why do people have to compare it to Boukenger`Seriously, if you want a PR season to be JUST LIKE a Sentai season and compare, and judge PR because of the dofference between Sentai And PR, then you shouldn't watch PR at all... Seriously, "It wasn't like boukenger"
That was never the point >.< Watch your precious Boukenger if it hurts you so much that OO wasn't like Boukenger...

RainbowTempest
11-12-2008, 07:55 PM
I agree, Power Rangers isn't supposed to mimic Super Sentai. If you want that, just watch the Sentai with English subtitles. PR is supposed to take the basis of that particular Sentai season and adapt it to English audiences while at the same time taking its own spin on the story.

PhoenixRenja
11-12-2008, 08:00 PM
i knew this would come. who said that oo was bad because it wasnt boukenger? heck In space and lost galaxy had totally different themes from megaranger and gingaman and they were awesome in my opinion. when people mention sentai when they are talk about a certain season it doesnt mean that gosh sentai is godlike and power rangers are shit... i said that proo sucked in my eyes because of the crappy theme the stupid explosions the worst dialogs and lines ever and lack of character development. but i mentioned the good aspects of the series like the relationship of mack and his father.... i never say that i dont like this season because sentai was better....

E.K.
11-12-2008, 08:04 PM
I agree, Power Rangers isn't supposed to mimic Super Sentai. If you want that, just watch the Sentai with English subtitles. PR is supposed to take the basis of that particular Sentai season and adapt it to English audiences while at the same time taking its own spin on the story.
I agree with you 100 percent.:) I mean, look at Gekiranger, Jan/GekiRed had pretty much his own strange language. Did Casey/JFRed have to speak in Jan talk to be a good Red Ranger? I don't think so. And in many Super Sentai shows, the first episode shows the team already formed a long time ago, while Power Rangers gives us the chance to see how the teams form.

Tidus21
11-12-2008, 08:11 PM
GOSH, why do people have to compare it to Boukenger`Seriously, if you want a PR season to be JUST LIKE a Sentai season and compare, and judge PR because of the dofference between Sentai And PR, then you shouldn't watch PR at all... Seriously, "It wasn't like boukenger"
That was never the point >.< Watch your precious Boukenger if it hurts you so much that OO wasn't like Boukenger...

The fact is that when PR mimics a Sentai Series in theme n such it is open for comparison because they are similar. Its almost like the comparison of Jack's Joker to Heath's Joker. Its going to happen and quite frankly people will just have to deal with the comparisons.

I have always based a PR season on its own merit or at least tried to. I compare here and there mostly to defend Super Sentai from those who dont even try to understand or watch the show.

Here is my statement on how i looked at OO:
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Will was the only ranger that seemed ok, Tyzonn was horrible and he seemed like he never did fit in. Rose was hot but other than that she seemed to be in the background. Ronny was like a overdone Taylor, Dax...well it was a bad attempt at a comical ranger he was over the top it just didnt come over well. Mac was a good ranger but i was not really fond of him.

The theme was just unbearable, it worked with Mystic Force and I liked it but PR has always been the pop rock style and im glad the Jungle Fury has a good theme.
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Here is my statement of comparison between the two and what OO was trying to do but just thrusted it all together at the last episode instead of over time.
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Boukenger wasnt just an adventure dealing with the Destination, it was the adventure of relying on others and challanging the best(masumi), the adventure of learning one's past(Natsuki), the adventure of trusting others and being their friends(Shouta), the adventure of love and learning to understand others feelings(Sakura), the adventure of becoming part of a team and working together(Eiji), and the adventure of moving on from the past and helping those in need with their adventures(Akashi)

Searching for treasure in different parts of Japan where the early civilization was so i mean it would be pointless to search elsewhere if the civilization made its home on japan...

Being a Power Ranger itself was an adventure.

The Adventure of protecting the precious and keeping the secret of where it was hidden.

I think where OO failed in its interpretation of adventure is that it only considered the Destination and only until the last episode considered the adventure of each ranger within themselves. Boukenger did that throughout the season with each ranger having their own moments. The only real moments when OO considered the adventure that takes place within the ranger is when Boukenger footage demanded it to(Will and Tyzonn most notably and Mack with his own backstory)
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Zeo_Dragonzord
11-12-2008, 08:13 PM
OO had everything that makes a good ranger season: Cool fights and awesome zords, hot ladies and a Red Ranger who goes above and beyond and a righteous team up

What more do you need ?

Tidus21
11-12-2008, 08:14 PM
I agree, Power Rangers isn't supposed to mimic Super Sentai. If you want that, just watch the Sentai with English subtitles. PR is supposed to take the basis of that particular Sentai season and adapt it to English audiences while at the same time taking its own spin on the story.

You are correct, Ill still compare seasons. Jungle Fury was just as awesome as Gekiranger was, left me wanting more the same goes for SPD, Mystic Force, NInja Storm and Dino Thunder...they all lived up to their own hype and did well with adapting while making their own stories.

Operation Overdrive however, failed.

Tidus21
11-12-2008, 08:30 PM
I think its safe to say that I prefer Boukenger of OO anyday.

Other than that I have been happy with the adaptations of Power Rangers(Except for Cole...) from Super Sentai, ill still watch both and will continously compare the two to see how things turn out.

Character development seemed lacking and sorta rushed it at the last episode instead of overtime during multiple episodes. Too many villians for the amount of episodes that OO had(which was my biggest worry going into the season)

Izout
11-12-2008, 09:32 PM
Boukenger wasnt just an adventure dealing with the Destination, it was the adventure of relying on others and challanging the best(masumi),
Which only lasted in the first two episodes.

the adventure of learning one's past(Natsuki),
And that pretty much ruin any meaningful development Natsuki could've had.

the adventure of trusting others and being their friends(Shouta),
Which was barely touch upon.

the adventure of love
Which they really didn't do anything with until the final episode.

and learning to understand others feelings(Sakura),
Maybe.

the adventure of becoming part of a team and working together(Eiji),
I'll give you that.

and the adventure of moving on from the past
Which was only touch upon in two episodes.

and helping those in need with their adventures(Akashi)
Maybe.

Searching for treasure in different parts of Japan where the early civilization was so i mean it would be pointless to search elsewhere if the civilization made its home on japan...
And that's where Boukenger failed with it's adventuring and treasure hunting theme-- They never went anywhere. They never had to face any trials perils because nearly all the Precious they found was in Japan. It promoted itself has this adventurous series but never went anywhere or did any treasure hunting. It's like if PRIS promoted itself as a space travelling season and instead just had the rangers hovering the earth.

Personally I felt OO handled the adventuring and treasure hunting theme better because the jewel quest was treated as global hunt. They actually had to travel the world to find the jewels instead of just finding them in different corners of San Angeles. Plus, we even saw the rangers loose sometimes (Both Sides Now and It's Hammer Time) which made the power struggle actually look like a struggle where else in Boukenger, the Bouken kids always came out ahead all the time.

Tidus21
11-12-2008, 09:56 PM
Which only lasted in the first two episodes.


And that pretty much ruin any meaningful development Natsuki could've had.


Which was barely touch upon.


Which they really didn't do anything with until the final episode.


Maybe.


I'll give you that.


Which was only touch upon in two episodes.


Maybe.


And that's where Boukenger failed with it's adventuring and treasure hunting theme-- They never went anywhere. They never had to face any trials perils because nearly all the Precious they found was in Japan. It promoted itself has this adventurous series but never went anywhere or did any treasure hunting. It's like if PRIS promoted itself as a space travelling season and instead just had the rangers hovering the earth.

Personally I felt OO handled the adventuring and treasure hunting theme better because the jewel quest was treated as global hunt. They actually had to travel the world to find the jewels instead of just finding them in different corners of San Angeles. Plus, we even saw the rangers loose sometimes (Both Sides Now and It's Hammer Time) which made the power struggle actually look like a struggle where else in Boukenger, the Bouken kids always came out ahead all the time.

OO handled treasure hunting itself better...Adventure, not soo much. The theme was Adventure and adventure isnt all about the destination where I feel that Boukenger did a better job with the theme. Each Boukenger had knowledge of differen precious and took stories and myths. OO misshandled probably the biggest Adventure that they tried to do which was the Adventure each ranger had in developing and changes over the season.

The Boukengers while maybe havent "lost" they went through bigger trials within the team and in their personal lives that OO couldnt amount to.

Mack was a robot but Akashi had the haunting memory of letting two of his best friends almost like family die without him being able to do anything about it.

Will just had trouble with being on a team, Masumi had the same trouble but wanted to be better than Akashi and worried about Natsuki and his trouble past. Masumi eventually became the leader of the Boukengers.

Dax kinda just wanted to be an actor...Souta a previous spy kept a log of his fellow rangers and kept an eye on them because of his spy background.

Rose, well she was indeed...HOT!!!! I felt that she was just there in background. She seemed to like to always be right and bout it. Sakura was the 2nd in command a former military solider. She only cared about getting the job done effectively and didnt really much care for other people's feelings except for Akashi.

Ronny was interesting and out going but I felt that she was an overdone Taylor...she sorta just wanted to be a racecar driver from what I remember. Natsuki, didnt know anything about her past trying to figure out how she was. she found out so she just had to go on and live the way she felt best.

Tyzonn had probably the best story, I just didnt like the lines nor that actor. Eiji had an equally great story with being half ashu turning evil for a few seconds turning good, turning into stone finding his mother talking to her. Becoming a ranger fighting with Masumi and Akashi to eventually become a team leader caring for those around him and even teaching Akashi a few things.

While it may have only been an episode or two for each ranger to develop on his own...it seemed like half an episode plus a small bit at the end for the OO Rangers to develop.

TokuFan
11-12-2008, 10:12 PM
GOSH, why do people have to compare it to Boukenger`Seriously, if you want a PR season to be JUST LIKE a Sentai season and compare, and judge PR because of the dofference between Sentai And PR, then you shouldn't watch PR at all... Seriously, "It wasn't like boukenger"
That was never the point >.< Watch your precious Boukenger if it hurts you so much that OO wasn't like Boukenger...

Look,we don't get sentai dubbed in addition to Power Rangers. That's why Power Rangers should be close to sentai. In fact,sometimes Power Rangers
has been better. Look at Hurricanger. That's good later on but it's a bit weird at the start. Then Ninja Storm came along and that was awesome! And you know how weird Magiranger was,and Mystic Force didn't add enough to the stories really.

You want a rounded argument,there you go. And anyway,I just don't want the good stories passed up and replaced by trash,which is exactly what happened. Oh,and I know Souta didn't get any development! They only had 49 episodes!

Hailey Hartford
11-12-2008, 11:27 PM
Considering OO was my fave season, maybe I should explain just why I loved it so much. No, I wasn't happy Mack turned out to be a robot but the storyline grew on me after it was revealed he still had the emotions of a human being. He was a android with a soul. The storyline, the actors, the characters, and much more is all what made OO IMO a great season overall. Say what you want but nothing will change how I feel regarding OO.

RangerDCMA
11-13-2008, 01:05 AM
It's nice to see some people have love for OO

Red Master
11-13-2008, 01:09 AM
TokuFan
Oh,and I know Souta didn't get any development! They only had 49 episodes!

So its ok for senti characters to not have development because of episode count,but people complain when PR characters don't get development with less episodes?

Tidus21
Mack was a robot but Akashi had the haunting memory of letting two of his best friends almost like family die without him being able to do anything about it.

Memories make you who you are.They define you as a being.Finding out that 90% of your memories are false is more devastating that haveing 1 bad memory.

NekoLLX
11-13-2008, 04:11 AM
So its ok for senti characters to not have development because of episode count,but people complain when PR characters don't get development with less episodes?



Memories make you who you are.They define you as a being.Finding out that 90% of your memories are false is more devastating that haveing 1 bad memory.

Machthought he was what? 18?
But only the last 2 years were real so 16 years of fake memorieis is more like what? 96%?

Tidus21
11-13-2008, 04:27 AM
So its ok for senti characters to not have development because of episode count,but people complain when PR characters don't get development with less episodes?



Memories make you who you are.They define you as a being.Finding out that 90% of your memories are false is more devastating that haveing 1 bad memory.

Shouta had a good deal of development, his spy background episode was perfect, his knowledge of myths and other things was great. HIs development was smaller and less noticable than the other Boukengers. but i think he was greatly done.

1 Bad memory? seriously...watching your closest friends, your family die right in front of you is less devastating that having false memories. Mack did have a pretty hard time and had to deal with that and it took...a couple of episodes(weeks in ranger time) but Akashi it took a great deal longer.

Mack had an easier time with his because even tho his memories were fake the meaning behind them were real. Akashi however had guilt on his own and felt that his own team may have hated him for leaving them behind.

In the end the feelings behind mack memories and the real memories shaped both characters.

Tidus21
11-13-2008, 04:30 AM
My Opinion about Operation Overdrive is pretty well known now. I applaud those that love the season and great for ya. I think Boukenger is better but thats just me. Based on its own merits even without watching boukenger i would probably still think OO was bad. I watched every episode tho and kept up with the season. I will say this tho it got better from the beginning but i still thought it wasnt all that great.

Im glad that Disney brought their A game for Jungle Fury and the maturity level up for it as well.

PhoenixRenja
11-13-2008, 01:17 PM
Personally I felt OO handled the adventuring and treasure hunting theme better because the jewel quest was treated as global hunt. They actually had to travel the world to find the jewels instead of just finding them in different corners of San Angeles. Plus, we even saw the rangers loose sometimes (Both Sides Now and It's Hammer Time) which made the power struggle actually look like a struggle where else in Boukenger, the Bouken kids always came out ahead all the time.


what i didnt like about proo is that they could go to Brazil to look for a jewel and when they were gonna use the zords they would come immediately from san angeles to Brazil in no time...

E.K.
11-13-2008, 01:21 PM
what i didnt like about proo is that they could go to Brazil to look for a jewel and when they were gonna use the zords they would come immediately from san angeles to Brazil in no time...
Maybe the Zords could travel at the speed of light?:confused:

Izout
11-13-2008, 01:45 PM
what i didnt like about proo is that they could go to Brazil to look for a jewel and when they were gonna use the zords they would come immediately from san angeles to Brazil in no time...

It's not the first this has happen. *ah*Dragonord*choo* *cough*Delta Base*cough*

PhoenixRenja
11-13-2008, 06:21 PM
It's not the first this has happen. *ah*Dragonord*choo* *cough*Delta Base*cough*

well you can surely overlook all these but for the zords to cross countries and oceans its a little over do.

Hailey Hartford
11-13-2008, 07:14 PM
It's nice to see some people have love for OO

Most people didn't feel Andrew did that great of a job as mentor but I disagree with this too. He did the best he could and that is what mattered the most.

Green Elephant
11-13-2008, 09:16 PM
Machthought he was what? 18?
But only the last 2 years were real so 16 years of fake memorieis is more like what? 96%?

89% if you think he's 18, but I say 22, so that's 91

The power Rangers's ages really don't come into play unless they are in high school or are weird (like Merrick being 3000+)

Red Tyrannosaurus
11-13-2008, 09:17 PM
I forgot about the theme.

While it wasn't the best, I actually thought it was really catchy

Besides MMPR was mainly just Go Go Power Rangers, so you can't really say OO's theme lacked good lyrics


whoa,hold it right there...MMPR had like 7 or 8 different songs for different fights each with its own messege.Of course "go go power ranger" was the most famous but certainly not the only one.

RangerDCMA
11-13-2008, 10:50 PM
whoa,hold it right there...MMPR had like 7 or 8 different songs for different fights each with its own messege.Of course "go go power ranger" was the most famous but certainly not the only one.

i know, i have songs like combat and fight on cd

what i meant was you can't expect PR lyrics to be deep and personal, it's a theme song at the end of the day

Green Elephant
11-15-2008, 04:14 PM
If it doesn't play over the opening credits, its not a theme song. Also. 2 of said combat songs were about Tommy alone.
They haven't done solo character songs since Zeo, and they don't need to. Just play an instrumental of the theme song and we're golden.