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Chris3123
11-05-2008, 04:26 AM
Barack Obama has won the 2008 US Presidential Election! He will be the 44th President of the United States, and holds the honor of being the first ever African-American President.

Congratulations, President Obama! :)

PowerOnyx
11-05-2008, 04:39 AM
Dear God no!

TheRoyalKnight
11-05-2008, 04:52 AM
Dear God no!

Stop being ignoreant it is time for a change and im happy to see A young fresh mind to lead a country which is in need of new ideas

ThisSpaceForRent
11-05-2008, 04:53 AM
Dear God no!

Too bad, so sad...







For you! XD Get like me, boo boo!

SilverNinjaRanger
11-05-2008, 04:59 AM
Barack Obama= EPIC WIN. I'm just happy that a man as great as obama can lead a country as powerful as the US.

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DaiRed
11-05-2008, 05:26 AM
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Greyson Stone
11-05-2008, 05:32 AM
I'm going to let this thread stay open for now, as long as it doesn't descend into utter chaos. This is a rather historic event, and should be treated as such. Don't start bashing or flaming or anything of the such, or else this thread will get closed faster than you can say Caribou Barbie and offenders getting a lovely little infraction. But, if any other Super Mods or Admins don't want this thread open, they have every right to close it.

Legendary.
11-05-2008, 05:41 AM
While I did vote for him I'm not gonna start saying thank god he's in office until I see some changes, we've got 2 more months of bush anyways...

Good Job Barack...but seriously wait a little until you jump out your boots thinking change is gonna happen.

Wait and see people. Wait and see. Nothing bad. Just saying you can't tell yet. Wouldn't be the first time a politician went back on their words.

PowerOnyx
11-05-2008, 06:05 AM
Wouldn't be the first time a politician went back on their words.

They have? Always thought we could trust them. :D

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11-05-2008, 06:37 AM
WHHHOOOO!!!

Finally. It. Is. Over.


While I am not particularly pro-Obama, I am truly excited to finally see this twenty-five month process come to a quick, precise, and very definite end. Also, I would like to point out the truly inspiring record voter turnout during this election, more than anything, that is what I am impressed by.

RainbowTempest
11-05-2008, 06:40 AM
I just wanna say congratulations to the winner of this year's presidential election. Both canidates ran a good campaign.

ThisSpaceForRent
11-05-2008, 07:11 AM
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A cookie to anyone who catches the reference. <3

SilverNinjaRanger
11-05-2008, 07:48 AM
A cookie to anyone who catches the reference. <3

Its a Killer Instinct Reference. (*digs out Super Famicom (SNES) and plays killer instinct*)

ThisSpaceForRent
11-05-2008, 08:01 AM
Its a Killer Instinct Reference. (*digs out Super Famicom (SNES) and plays killer instinct*)

And a cookie to you, my good sir! *bestows upon you the finest cookie in all the land*

Element
11-05-2008, 09:29 AM
Happy a Democrat is in office nice change, even tho I think it should be Hillary Clinton

Raditude
11-05-2008, 09:54 AM
Betrayed By The American Citizens

As I sit here on the night after the polls closed, after anxiously awaiting the results of our doomsday decision, I am left with a feeling of uncertainty. The country I was born and raised in has changed in the last 20 years. Changed for the worst. At one time we were relatively free, the country had morals and we were at peace. In those last 20 years, I've seen a decline in society. The once dominant majority of well-educated and morally inclined Americans have slowly been outnumbered by uneducated, greedy, selfish, people who lack moral upstanding. Now, these incompetent people were put in charge of selecting our president, and have betrayed everything that this country once was. They have betrayed the founding fathers. They have betrayed the morally upright citizens of America.

I have stuck with this country through many trials. I have backed it, when I don't agree with it's actions. I can no longer support a country that has turned it's back on it's people. Under the new administration, The United States Of America will become a destructive state, and I don't wish to be here when that happens. America's citizens have betrayed me, and in turn, I will betray America.

-Clarence "Raditude" Miller


The following was posted on The Sean Hannity Forums: (http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1112621)

The Day My Country Died By Suicide

Tonight my country chose socialism and idiocy....or is that redundant?

In my childhood and teen years I learned about my country and its precepts and what the founders intended. These great founders knew that government was a danger, and instructed the people through a constitution to limit government power, and reserved the majority of the power to a congress, and to the states and to the people.

This day, my country died, by suicide.
Its populace chose to elect a president who is an overt socialist, and to keep in power a party that has all but destroyed our economic state.

In the bible, one can read the book of Lamentations; it is a book written by Jeremiah the prophet, as a funeral speech. At that time, his nation, Israel, chose the path of idiocy as well, and rebelled against their God and even their own law. Yet despite them deserving their ruin, Jeremiah wept for his nation, because the self destruction was so foolish and needless.

So the people chose badly, and should we weep? They know what they are doing, so they say. They are very self-wise and very self-searching, and very aware of the issues--so they say.
Should we weep?

January, our rights and freedoms come under assault, and the socialists have their way-- the nation dies, amid cheering and desire for a despot, a thug, a criminal, a marxist. Those of us who fought, were outnumbered, idiocy has prevailed, and death is coming to dinner for this nation.

Well, the nation lasted, at least in semblance, for about 232 years.
I suppose one could argue that the duration was far above what most governments usually last, so perhaps it was time for aged and tired Uncle Sam to die by socialists and idiots, despite have doctors there who warned of his affliction.

Yes, I weep.
I loved my country, and I will miss it.

Another Quote from Sean Hannity Forums:

"Sad, sad, disappointing day in America when a socialist with such shady issues gets elected over a bona fide war hero who spent more time in a POW camp than Obama has his entire political career.


Congratulations, socialists, you and your supporters got what you wanted."

ThisSpaceForRent
11-05-2008, 11:02 AM
Lots of countries (Canada, Holand, etc.) implement some Socialist ideals and they seem to be doing just fine.

I'm sorry, but considering the alternative, I think the best person for the job got it.


Though I would have loved to have put Hilary back in the White House, too, but whatever. A victory is a victory. n.n

E.K.
11-05-2008, 11:17 AM
All i can say is "HALLELUJAH, There IS a God!!!" I admit i've always been a Democrat so after back to back losses from Al Gore and John Kerry, i am so ecstatic and excited that we liberals have finally won this battle. I've always believed in Barack Obama and i have all the confidence in the world in him to make a change in this current world and make it a better place to live in.:)

E.K.
11-05-2008, 02:10 PM
So I'm uneducated, greedy, and selfish? Gee thanks. All of this bitterness is exactly why I'm a liberal Atheist and not a conservative Christian. Get bent, Miller.
If it makes you feel better, i'm also a liberal as well and although i am a Christian, i respect the fact that you don't have religious beliefs. Can't hold a grudge against you just for that, if i did i'd be no better than those deluded members of the Westboro Baptist Church. Anyway, i am glad that Obama won the USA Presidency, and in terms of Puerto Rican politics, even though i didn't pay much attention to it, i'm glad that Luis Fortuño (PNP) managed to secure the victory for Governor of PR, since our last governor Anibal Acevedo Vila (PPD) had been facing corruption charges brought on by the FBI for most of his last year as governor which is this year.

Green Mystic Ranger
11-05-2008, 02:24 PM
2580 - Calm down please..

I'm not American, but I wanted Barack Obama to win, and I'm glad he did. Nicely done ^^ I enjoyed his victory speech.

Deadpool
11-05-2008, 02:31 PM
Congratulations Obama. Nice to see someone from Chicago make it to the white house. You've made history.

Congratulations to McCain. You ran a great race. It was nice to see that you an upstanding citizen and man.

Congratulations to Biden. You kinda were just there. But way to go anyways.

Congratulations to Palin. You made a splash. You made history by being the first viable female canidate for the Vice Presidency.

Raging Phoenix
11-05-2008, 06:15 PM
Not being from the US myself I'm glad Obama won. I feel Obama will work together with Europe more and, since he's not a warveteran, he will not be focussed on war so much. I just hope there haven't been too many people for him because he's black, since that's not why he should be chosen. Seeing the clear win though, I think that didn't really make the difference. Also I feel now Americans can be proud of their nation again. They have a president who comes across as intelligent and diplomatic. Shame he has to clear Bush's rubble first.

Rebelde
11-05-2008, 06:19 PM
YAY, congrats Obama *^__^*

PhoenixRenja
11-05-2008, 07:01 PM
Thats great news for America :) Congrats

Avenger
11-05-2008, 09:58 PM
Not being from the US myself I'm glad Obama won. I feel Obama will work together with Europe more and, since he's not a warveteran, he will not be focussed on war so much. I just hope there haven't been too many people for him because he's black, since that's not why he should be chosen. Seeing the clear win though, I think that didn't really make the difference. Also I feel now Americans can be proud of their nation again. They have a president who comes across as intelligent and diplomatic. Shame he has to clear Bush's rubble first.

I agree with you Rage. But I'm also afraid that if he will work more together with Europe, that he expects from the European contries that they will give the USA more aid in the wars that have been already started.

Zeo Power
11-05-2008, 11:31 PM
I'm so thrilled Obama won! I wanted him to win since it came down between him and Mcain. Maybe this will help push for us gays to have more rights... like to get married one day! Mcain already made it clear he was against same-sex marriages. *sigh*

Raditude
11-06-2008, 04:18 AM
So I'm uneducated, greedy, and selfish? Gee thanks. All of this bitterness is exactly why I'm a liberal Atheist and not a conservative Christian.

That wasn't directed at anyone in particular, but the vast majority of the voters who chose him.

Raditude
11-06-2008, 09:18 AM
Well, I would agree that our education system needs fixing and I would agree that our current society is a far cry from what the founding fathers intended, though my reasons for that are probably different from yours. I'm just curious: what are the morals that Americans have been loosing over the last 20 years?

I won't name them all, because I know it'll start fights and flame wars on here, but I can name a few.

The main one is abortion. Abortion is being practiced more freely.

Other would be sex before marriage and not respecting our elders.

Americans are greedy now. They want government to buy them a house, a car, gas for their car etc. They don't want to work for their things.

As for why Obama is bad for America:

Obama is a Socialist. He wants to take the wealth from the rich (by taxing them) and give it to the poor. This will hurt our economy. The rich will lose incentive to work because the government's going to take their money anyway, and the poor is having everything handed to them so they don't need to work. Without anyone working, nothing gets done. No new products are put out on the market. No new cures for diseases. No new medicines. Food will be scarce. And with so much demand and so little product, everything will be affected by inflation.

That's only the beginning of the problems Obama will bring on this nation.

He has ties to terrorists... Hamas endorses him. He's friends with an unrepentant terrorist. Joe Biden (the Vice-President-Elect) stated that within 6 months of Obama taking office, he will be "challenged internationally." It sounds to me like the setup for an inside terrorist job.

Obama has never shown a birth certificate from the United States. He was raised and went to school in India and/or the Middle East, and it's speculated that he was born there.

Obama is also friends with a Black Supremacist preacher. He wants to put Blacks first, instead of everyone equal. I'm sorry my ancestors put your ancestors in slavery, but you can't hold me accountable. Dr. MLK Jr already won that fight, there's no need to continue it. Many prominent Black Preachers agree with me on this.

Kryptonian
11-06-2008, 10:01 AM
I'm not American, But I have to say that I'm glad Obama won. I can see him doing great things to better America.

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oh also just for the lawlz...

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Creator
11-06-2008, 10:30 AM
Hopefully, he fix the world's problems during his term.

Dark Phoenix
11-06-2008, 02:33 PM
Well hes gradually bringing the troops back so I can't wait to see my brother.

Jaden Rose
11-06-2008, 04:44 PM
As I expected: conservative Christian morals. If you really believe that Jesus is going to return someday and establish his kingdom on this planet or take you away to wherever he keeps his kingdom hidden, then what do you care? In the end, your morals will be the only ones in existence, so why let this stuff bother you? Are you worried that Jesus isn't coming back? Do you not really believe in his second return but are too afraid to admit it?

Dude, don't start... Rad is expressing his opinions on why he thinks Obama is bad for this country, just as you have your own opinions on why Obama is good. If he's got conservative Christian morals and opinions, then he's allowed to express them, as long as he's not preaching and trying to force it on us, just like you are allowed to express your Atheist morals and opinions in the same token. We (and this includes Raditude himself) didn't insult you directly. You've actually agreed with him on a few issues in America. No one's picked on you, so please don't insult other people for their religion and opinions just because you don't agree. Just calm down so this thread keeps it's purpose: for people to express how they feel about Obama getting the presidency.

Anyways, in my opinion, since I'm not huge on politics, I don't really care that Obama got it. Whatever he does in office, I can't change, unless I stage a protest or something, so I'm just going with it. Whatever happens will happen, and I'll just live through it. I know this sounds weak and fatalistic, but I'm kinda used to ignoring the government at my current age. Maybe in the future, I'll find a different view on things...

One thing that annoys me, however, is the coverage that says he's the first African-American President... which is slightly wrong to say. His mother was Caucasian-American and his father was Kenyan, so this makes him biracial, not completely African-American. Therefore, wouldn't it make more sense to say first biracial President or the first President of African descent or something similar? It's just my thoughts on that matter, since I'm biracial myself.

Skeleman
11-06-2008, 05:03 PM
I don't think Obama is truly what he has portrayed himself as during this past election and what most people believe him to be. I guess we'll see once he takes office.

ThisSpaceForRent
11-06-2008, 05:13 PM
How can you accurately judge someone until you've seen them in action?

And may I say that as someone who's lived under the rule and oppression of a government that did all it could to mandate morality (never mind whose, never mind that everyone doesn't prescribe to these set of 'ethics' that certain groups claim to endorse)-- a government, might I add, that just recently passed some of the most bigoted legislature EVER (yes, I'm talking about all of the anti-gay bans that have been passed. Most especially Prop. 'H'8)-- I am beyond glad that perhaps, finally after nearly a decade under the domination of the largely corrupt so-called 'Christian Right', we as a country may finally be taking steps in a proactive, progressive direction.

Evil Green Ranger
11-06-2008, 05:21 PM
I didn't think i was going to respond to this one...but I guess I should, Obama is a big win for the African Amerians? maybe...but not yet, if he fails in any way I sence a big I told you so, The only thing that seems to be going around as to why people voted for Obama is because hes black, it means Change, his whole campain was Change...I mean you can't get away from that...just tell me how great it's going to be that America had it's first black...or biracial president (which I've heard alot of people say if you have any black in you, you're a black person) if he were to fail, now yes I did vote for Obama...This is because I felt he would be good for the Country, and I don't like the idea of Nucular plants going up (mccain's plan) , not that I have a problem with us arming are selfs with nukes, I just don't like the idea of us having more targets...what I'm getting at is so many people are celebrating, I'll reserve my celebration for when he starts to do half the things he's promised, and to see if he does a good job as president, or will he be the one blamed for our nation going further down?

Dark Phoenix
11-06-2008, 05:25 PM
I dont agree with the poor gettingmoney. I mean c'mon it aint that hard to get a job and if your poor I can garuntee you can get a job at fast food places.

Evil Green Ranger
11-06-2008, 05:32 PM
That's actualy not true, what about the people with Disabilaties that arn't covered under welfair and what not? it's a danger to them to work in those kind of fields...and these people are living in a small town with not alot of opertunitys, I should know I suffer from a good deal of mental dissabilitys, and i don't think they're covered under welfare, but I do have a job..won't go in to detail about it, but it sucks...but at least it's a job...and i would never have the money to relocate my family nor my self...theres more reasons people are poor, or not exactly "upper class" because they refuse to work or are lazy

mariescott
11-06-2008, 06:12 PM
One of the reasons I voted for Obama was the spread the wealth plan. It is supposed to help the middle class of which I belong. I only make a little over $18,000 a year. I also have no health insurance. If it is supposed to help the "poor" too that is great. In this country you are considered poor if you make under $10,000 a year which is what my mother makes. Not everyone who is poor is unemployed. Bush gives people who earn over $1 million dollars a tax cut nearly 160 times greater than that received by middle-income Americans. Why should they get to pay less taxes when they have so much money? Also Obama wants to end tax breaks for companies that send American jobs overseas therefor creating more jobs here.

Anahi
11-06-2008, 06:43 PM
Well I've got to say it's a nice change. I was really mad at the fact that they chose him over Hillary..I still would much rather have her than him, but like i said it's a nice change which it's probably what our country needs at this moment.

Raging Phoenix
11-06-2008, 06:49 PM
Taking money from the rich to give to the poor happens anyway, the only question is to which extend. I'm not sure how it's all happening in the US, so I can't have an opinion, but if you don't have any regulation giving money of the rich to the poor, you'll come dangerously close to most African countries. People who are not able to get money (or shouldn't have to anymore, like the elderly), should be supported by the government with tax money. From the stories I've heard, the US could up this support a little.

Oh, and for the record, our board does allow political discussions, but it should stay within boardrules. That means no bashing. You should all remember both candidates got millions of votes, so their views aren't all together weird, even if you don't agree with them. So please respect people who voted for the other party.

On the ban on gay-marriage. If you guys can find the money, just marry here in the the Netherlands... We are sane, we do allow this. xD

Dark Phoenix
11-06-2008, 09:48 PM
Im just happy the troops will be gradually be brought back. My family and I are just excited and cant wait until my brother comes back whenever that is.

Avenger
11-06-2008, 09:54 PM
Im just happy the troops will be gradually be brought back. My family and I are just excited and cant wait until my brother comes back whenever that is.

I wish for you that he'll come home soon.

Bringing the troops back, even though they won't come home all at once of course, is one reason why I prefer Obama. I don't think that McCain would do that, since he's one of those war veterans.

Chris3123
11-06-2008, 10:50 PM
He has ties to terrorists... Hamas endorses him.


That's not a tie to terrorists. Obama has no connection to them. And I certainly wouldn't care too much about what Hamas says.

He's friends with an unrepentant terrorist.

Is Obama acquainted with Bill Ayers? Certainly. But friends with him? Saying that someone is friends with a terrorist is a statement that must be backed with evidence.


Joe Biden (the Vice-President-Elect) stated that within 6 months of Obama taking office, he will be "challenged internationally." It sounds to me like the setup for an inside terrorist job.

I hope you are not suggesting that Obama/Biden are actually aware/in on a planned attack that will take place soon after Obama takes the office.

Obama has never shown a birth certificate from the United States. He was raised and went to school in India and/or the Middle East, and it's speculated that he was born there.

That is incorrect. His Hawaiian birth certificate has been presented, and a copy is viewable by the public online. The state of Hawaii even confirms that it is legitimate. Link (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iw1At-4G1xuE50oXVFRlBPfR3dqgD945OLU00)

Obama is also friends with a Black Supremacist preacher. He wants to put Blacks first, instead of everyone equal.

That may be what Rev. Wright believes, but Obama has never made such claims.

ThisSpaceForRent
11-07-2008, 12:13 AM
Rev. Wright... I'm honestly tired of hearing about that bullcrap. At least Obama WENT TO CHURCH. Also, he never left his wife for some chick he picked up in a bar. Oh, and let's not acknowledge any of John McCain's Supremisist friends who have already been mentioned in this thread. I mean, honestly. >:|

Raditude
11-07-2008, 12:53 AM
That's not a tie to terrorists. Obama has no connection to them. And I certainly wouldn't care too much about what Hamas says.

Why would Hamas endorse someone in the US? They hate everything about Western Society. There's more to it than meets the eye.

Is Obama acquainted with Bill Ayers? Certainly. But friends with him? Saying that someone is friends with a terrorist is a statement that must be backed with evidence.

They served together on a charity committee. Bill Ayers invited Obama to his house to meet the family.

I hope you are not suggesting that Obama/Biden are actually aware/in on a planned attack that will take place soon after Obama takes the office.

That is exactly what I'm suggesting.

That is incorrect. His Hawaiian birth certificate has been presented, and a copy is viewable by the public online. The state of Hawaii even confirms that it is legitimate. Link (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iw1At-4G1xuE50oXVFRlBPfR3dqgD945OLU00)

Ok, well there's some evidence I haven't seen before. I would still like to see a copy of the birth certificate though. Heck even if they showed one, it could have easily been manufactured or forged.

That may be what Rev. Wright believes, but Obama has never made such claims.

So he sat at Rev Wright's church for 20 years, listening to those kind of sermons, and didn't protest or leave. That's passive agreement.

Rev. Wright... I'm honestly tired of hearing about that bullcrap. At least Obama WENT TO CHURCH. Also, he never left his wife for some chick he picked up in a bar. Oh, and let's not acknowledge any of John McCain's Supremisist friends who have already been mentioned in this thread. I mean, honestly. >:|

I never said I'm a fan of McCain either. I think McCain is more qualified to be president than Obama, but there's guys who are yet more qualified than McCain. One of those being Ron Paul, and another being the Constitution Party Candidate Chuck Baldwin. Heck I'd take another 8 years of Bush over Obama; because at least in his many f ups, he at least tries to do what's right for America.

ThisSpaceForRent
11-07-2008, 01:11 AM
Please, dude. Now you're just being ludicrous.

I think it's a HUGE sign when the rest of the free world is REJOICING over Obama's victory.

I'm sorry, but out of all of the possible choices this election (Ron Paul included), Obama's was the platform that, to me, made the most sense.

And can we please end this bullsh*t about him not being American? He's President-Elect now. Do you not think they would have, y'know, checked his credentials before hand? The Democratic party isn't the party that fixes elections. Obama got it fair and square and if people could see past their blatant ignorance and give him a chance, perhaps he could really achieve great things.

Get off his jock. Quit being conspiracy theorists. You're really grasping at nonexistent straws now.

It boils down to this: Obama IS President-Elect, so if you're not happy with that, you have two options: either suck it up and deal with it the way we had to deal with Bush for EIGHT YEARS (thanks to anyone who reellected him), or get t'steppin'. There's many another country that you may prefer.

Emily Corbett
11-07-2008, 02:09 AM
Ok, that's enough, the election is over and now I think we'd be better off avoiding arguments. I'm closing this thread, please don't make more. It's over now, we just need to accept the outcome, no matter who won.