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RyanRXP
07-29-2008, 10:00 AM
I have always believed that it was entirely Saban, but I was looking it up and found this on Wikipedia:
"Wild Force is the last season to be under the copyright of Saban Entertainment [1]; Disney had bought Power Rangers (along with other Saban properties) partway through the run of Power Rangers: Time Force. [2] It's also the first season, however, to be under the copyright of BVS Entertainment, Inc. and BVS International N.V., since the first four episodes had the Disney copyright at the end. It was the last season to be produced in the United States by MMPR Productions, and because of this is often mistaken as the last series Saban produced. Following this season, production of the Power Rangers franchise moved to New Zealand, which resulted in many crew and voice actors being laid off."

If Disney had power over what went into it, then that explains alot. Wildforce always seemed different than a typical Saban season. It didn't seem like a typical Disney season either. What is your thoughts?
Izout
07-29-2008, 12:56 PM
It was a Disney season that was done by MMPR Productions.
ForeverBlue
07-29-2008, 01:42 PM
Izout, it wasn't a Disney season.

Saban was still in charge of PR when Wild Force came. Disney aired the rest of WF on ABC Kids after buying PR by mid season just after the anniversary episode ForeverRed.
blueprodigy
07-29-2008, 02:22 PM
Logo says it all

http://www.geocities.com/bluegalaxyspace/wildforce/prwf-logo.jpg

If Disney made WF, it would not have Saban's name in the logo.
Izout
07-29-2008, 02:35 PM
Izout, it wasn't a Disney season.

Saban was still in charge of PR when Wild Force came. Disney aired the rest of WF on ABC Kids after buying PR by mid season just after the anniversary episode ForeverRed.
No, Saban sold the series to Disney before Wild Force entered production. MMPR Productions was dropped after Wild Force's production had completed, due to the New Zealand move.

Logo says it all

http://www.geocities.com/bluegalaxyspace/wildforce/prwf-logo.jpg

If Disney made WF, it would not have Saban's name in the logo.
That was before the Disney buyout. Also, if WF was a Saban season, then why didn't we say the:

Executive Producers
Haim Saban
Shuki Levy
credit at the end of every WF episode like we did from MMPR-TF?
Crimson Soul
07-29-2008, 07:56 PM
I believe Saban Entertainment began filming the season. After the show was sold to Disney, all the Saban Entertainment writers were hired. They became known as the MMPR Productions crew. After the season ended, Disney moved the location to New Zealand, and hired all new writers for the show.
Izout
07-29-2008, 08:01 PM
Yeah, Saban Entertainment was not the same thing as MMPR Productions. Saban Entertainment was essentially the one writing the checks while MMPR Production was the production team.
Evil Ranger
07-29-2008, 08:03 PM
Logo says it all

http://www.geocities.com/bluegalaxyspace/wildforce/prwf-logo.jpg

If Disney made WF, it would not have Saban's name in the logo.

Unless Disney is trying to frame Saban... I mean really who would voluntary take the credits for Idiotforce?
RyanRXP
07-29-2008, 08:14 PM
You are forgetting that Saban was sold to Disney, Haim Saban and Shuki Levy sold it. Saban, the company, could have been the ones to work on it, but it was headed by Disney. Well that's my theory. Any thoughts on it?
Crimson Soul
07-29-2008, 08:15 PM
Yeah, Saban Entertainment was not the same thing as MMPR Productions. Saban Entertainment was essentially the one writing the checks while MMPR Production was the production team.

"Saban Entertainment" is a company, not a person. Haim Saban was the one writing the checks. "Saban Entertainment" consisted of Haim Saban, MMPR Productions, and many other workers.
SPD-fury
07-29-2008, 08:19 PM
Unless Disney is trying to frame Saban... I mean really who would voluntary take the credits for Idiotforce?

LOL XD good one xD
Titanium Ranger
07-29-2008, 08:26 PM
As a fan, I disagree.

But still, I heard it was midway through the production when Disney bought it. So far, CS's explanation seems to make sense...
Crimson Soul
07-29-2008, 08:32 PM
As a fan, I disagree.

But still, I heard it was midway through the production when Disney bought it. So far, CS's explanation seems to make sense...

Yeah, I think I remembering hearing that Disney bought the series halfway through the production, and just kept the same writers until the season was finished.
golden_phantom_ranger
07-29-2008, 08:46 PM
yea i thought that disney bought it right after forever red.
Crimson Soul
07-29-2008, 08:58 PM
yea i thought that disney bought it right after forever red.

I've never heard that before. I always assumed that Disney officially bought Power Rangers a couple episodes before "The Master's Last Stand." I thought this because Disney had made a contract with ABC to air Power Rangers on their kids block (ABC Kids). The first episode to air on ABC Kids was "Unfinished Buisness," making me think it was the first episode produced by Disney.

I also assumed this because the last episode to air on Fox Kids was "The Master's Last Stand." After that episode, Fox Kids kept running re-runs until the network decided to switch the kid's block to "The Fox Box." Fox Kids and Saban Entertainment had a contract which ended when Disney bought the series. Therefore, I believe the final Saban Entertainment episode was The Master's Last Stand," although the last episode with the Saban Entertainment writers was "The End of the Power Rangers."
Hear All
07-30-2008, 12:16 AM
Wheres Cmdr Crayfish when you need him lol

I think Crimson Soul is right though
wadeinthewater
07-30-2008, 01:59 AM
I have always believed that it was entirely Saban, but I was looking it up and found this on Wikipedia:
"Wild Force is the last season to be under the copyright of Saban Entertainment [1]; Disney had bought Power Rangers (along with other Saban properties) partway through the run of Power Rangers: Time Force. [2] It's also the first season, however, to be under the copyright of BVS Entertainment, Inc. and BVS International N.V., since the first four episodes had the Disney copyright at the end. It was the last season to be produced in the United States by MMPR Productions, and because of this is often mistaken as the last series Saban produced. Following this season, production of the Power Rangers franchise moved to New Zealand, which resulted in many crew and voice actors being laid off."

If Disney had power over what went into it, then that explains alot. Wildforce always seemed different than a typical Saban season. It didn't seem like a typical Disney season either. What is your thoughts?

Wild Force began the downfall of what PR meant.
Crimson Soul
07-30-2008, 03:15 AM
Wheres Cmdr Crayfish when you need him lol

I think Crimson Soul is right though

Yeah, I am pretty sure my explanation is close to accurate. All I need to do is find what date Disney bought Power Rangers. Then I can patch up any mistakes in my explanation.
wadeinthewater
07-30-2008, 05:46 AM
Yeah, I am pretty sure my explanation is close to accurate. All I need to do is find what date Disney bought Power Rangers. Then I can patch up any mistakes in my explanation.

Damn Disney.
2580
08-05-2008, 07:09 AM
I will never think of Wild Force as a Saban series; I might perhaps think of it as the bastard child of Saban and Disney, but that's it.
Scaletex
08-06-2008, 01:40 PM
Unless Disney is trying to frame Saban... I mean really who would voluntary take the credits for Idiotforce?

Idiot Force? According to Encyclopedia Dramatica, it's more like "Hippie Force," though they equate the two so it doesn't matter.
y671
08-06-2008, 01:47 PM
I will never think of Wild Force as a Saban series; I might perhaps think of it as the bastard child of Saban and Disney, but that's it.

I agree with that.
King
08-06-2008, 10:16 PM
It was a Disney season that was done by MMPR Productions.

So Disney didn't make it they just bought it right?
Izout
08-06-2008, 10:53 PM
Well, since this thread had been bumped up, I might as well post this quote from OrionPower2001 from RB that should hopefully put an end to this confusion:

I'm certain, yes.

The Disney buyout was announced via Press Release in July of 2001. Time Force was in post production at the time. The sale itself took place in Aug/Sept of 2001. Wild Force went into production later that fall.

The only places you will see a Saban connection to the show would be in the Licensing Show information for that year, which was released in June of 2001, prior to the announcement of the sale to Disney, and on the very first wave of toys. The Saban name never appeared on the series itself, and "Disney Enterprises" was, according to the end credits, the copyright holder for the entire season.

Saban was long gone by the time Wild Force went into production.

Wild Force was produced by MMPR Productions. The same company that produced the Saban seasons. The Wikipedia paragraph quoted is inaccurate, since it states that both Saban Entertainment and Buena Vista held the copyright to the show. The copyright holder was "Disney Enterprises" for the duration of the season. (What's really funny about this is that the screencap they reference as proving that Saban had the copyright doesn't list Saban as the copyright holder at all.) Someone edited the page and changed Disney to Saban, completely ignoring the references in the article itself.