Second in command?

[RyanRXP]

To stop a comming treand:




Who was the second in command for each season?


This is in the discussion section for a reason, so feel free to discuss.

[Izout]

I'll repeat what I said in the Zeo thread:

Nobody since no SIC ever existed.

[Primal Slayer]

To stop a comming treand:




Who was the second in command for each season?

Thank you soooo much, I was just about to make a comment about that.

[RyanRXP]

I just didn't want the same argument that happened over pro/con threads.

[DTGR]

MMPR S1 - Zack but Tommy took over
MMPR S2 - Zack, then it became Jason, then it became Billy IMO
MMPR S3 - Billy/Kimberly
Zeo - Rocky but then Jason took over
Turbo - Adam, then it became Carlos
In Space - TJ, then it became Zhane
Lost Galaxy - Not too sure
Lightspeed Rescue - Not too sure
Time Force - Wes
Wild Force - Taylor, then Merrik took over
Ninja Storm - Dustin, then Hunter took over
Dino Thunder - Ethan, then Connor when Tommy became a ranger
SPD - Sky, then Jack when Doggie became a ranger
Mystic Force - Xander
Operation Overdrive - Will, then Tyzonn took over
Jungle Fury - Not too sure

[RyanRXP]

MMPR1: Zack
MMPR2: Zack, then Jason, then Billy
MMPR3: Billy and Kim
Zeo: Rocky
Turbo: Adam, then Carlos
Space: TJ
Lost Galaxy: Kai and Kendrix (I haven't seen much lately, so I could be wrong)
Lightspeed: Chad/Joel{either}
Time Force: Wes, then Jen
Wild Force: Taylor
Ninja Storm: Tori, then Hunter
Dino Thunder: Ethan, then Conner
SPD: Sky
Mystic Force: Xander
Overdrive: Ronny or Rose
Jungle Fury: Theo, then Casey

[Jyukai Rahziel Azu]

I think Casey took back the spot in JF, RJ believes in his Tiger instincts which has saved the day numerous times for the rangers

[RyanRXP]

I think Casey took back the spot in JF, RJ believes in his Tiger instincts which has saved the day numerous times for the rangers

From my perspective, RJ is still giving orders and being the leader, and him as the mentor is far gone(my status on mentors and rangers)

[Izout]

From my perspective, RJ is still giving orders and being the leader, and him as the mentor is far gone(my status on mentors and rangers)

Dude, RJ had been doing that even before he became a ranger.

[RyanRXP]

Dude, RJ had been doing that even before he became a ranger.

Giving orders from the sidelines is far from giving them on the battle field. He stopped being a mentor when he became the leader.

[Izout]

Giving orders from the sidelines is far from giving them on the battle field. He stopped being a mentor when he became the leader.

RJ still the mentor. He's never been the leader of the team.

[RyanRXP]

RJ still the mentor. He's never been the leader of the team.

Rewatch the episodes. Who is the one giving the orders and acting like a leader? RJ, not Casey.
A mentor guides, a leader gives orders.

[Izout]

Rewatch the episodes. Who is the one giving the orders and acting like a leader? RJ, not Casey.
A mentor guides, a leader gives orders.

Please, all RJ did was give the most basic of orders that a trained chimp could've done without taking much more time. All RJ was doing what he usually does anyways, which's guiding the others into combat. He didn't even say what to do, just where to go.

[Andros 1337]

MMPR S1 - Zack
MMPR S2 - Kimberly
MMPR S3 - Billy
MMAR - Aurico
Zeo - Adam, then Jason
Turbo - Adam, then Carlos
Space - T.J. (not Carlos or Zhane)
Lost Galaxy - Kai
Lightspeed Rescue - Chad or Dana
Time Force - Wes
Wild Force - Taylor
Ninja Storm - Hunter
Dino Thunder - ?. It is actually quite debatable who was the leader here.
SPD - Sky
Mystic Force - Xander
Operation Overdrive - ?
Jungle Fury - R.J.

[RedJungleRanger]

um..

MMPR Season 1: Tommy
MMPR Season 2: Billy
MMPR Season 3: Rocky
Zeo: Adam
Turbo: Carlos (during second half of PRT)
In Space: TJ then Zhane
Lost Galaxy: Kai
PRLR: Chad or Joel
Time Force: lol.. i know about the arguement because they say Jen is leader but, Wes is the real deal.. it have to be Jen :D
Wild Force: Taylor
Ninja Storm: Tori
SPD: Sky, then Bridge
Mystic Force: Chip
Operation Overdrive: Rose or Tyzonn
Jungle Fury: Theo or RJ

[RyanRXP]

Please, all RJ did was give the most basic of orders that a trained chimp could've done without taking much more time. All RJ was doing what he usually does anyways, which's guiding the others into combat. He didn't even say what to do, just where to go.

But he did give orders. He is still giving orders(less becasue they have been fighting divided)

[Izout]

But he did give orders. He is still giving orders(less becasue they have been fighting divided)
So was Carlos in Wasp With a Heart, was he trying to be leader? :rolleyes:

[RyanRXP]

Which, again, were the most basic orders you can give.

But he is:
1. Still giving them
2. Giving more orders than anyone else

So he is the leader.

[Izout]

But he is:
1. Still giving them
2. Giving more orders than anyone else

So he is the leader.

Eh, I still say he's still being a mentor. But hey, even if he the leader, it makes a hell of alot more sense for RJ to be leader than Casey.

[RyanRXP]

Eh, I still say he's still being a mentor. But hey, even if he the leader, it makes a hell of alot more sense for RJ to be leader than Casey.

He is a better choice.

A master or a low level student?

[Revived Interest]

It's difficult to say, since a case can be made for several rangers in almost every season, but I'll do my best. But first here's my acronymns to avoid confusion:

GRE= Green With Evil
PT= Power Transfer
AGH= A Golden Homecoming
PTT= Passing the Torch
ROT= Return of Thunder
ASJ= A Samurai's Journey
LA= Long Ago

Now on to the question:

Pre-GRE MMPR1- Zack

Post-GRE MMPR1- Tommy

Pre-PT MMPR2- Tommy or Jason (They kind of alternate throughout)

Post-PT MMPR2- Billy

MMPR3- Billy

Pre-AGH Zeo- Rocky or Adam (Rocky was more assertive but Adam did more, so to be safe I'll put them both).

Post-AGH Zeo- Jason

Pre-PTT Turbo- Adam

Post-PTT Turbo- Carlos

In Space- T.J.

Lost Galaxy- Kai

Lightspeed Rescue- Dana

Time Force- Jen or Wes (I consider Jen and Wes to be co-leaders so they alternate second-in-command throughout the season).

Wild Force- Taylor

Pre-ROT Ninja Storm- Tori

Post-ROT-Pre-ASJ Ninja Storm- Hunter

Post-ASJ Ninja Storm- Cam

Dino Thunder- Conner (I consider mentor rangers to be the ranger leader in all cases but Mystic Force since Udonna was only a ranger in two or three episodes. Also, in DT, Tommy becomes a ranger after like 4 episodes, so Ethan was only 2nd in command for those episodes and doesn't make this list).

S.P.D.- Jack

Pre-LA Mystic Force- Xander

Post-LA Mystic Force- Nick (I think Daggeron took on more of a leadership role than Nick)

Operation Overdrive- Will or Rose

Jungle Fury- Casey

[RyanRXP]

I see someone else agrees with me on Mentors becoming leaders.:)

[Jyukai Rahziel Azu]

RJ said it himself "THE TIGER LEADS THE TEAM" during "no "I" in Leader" and admitted he got overzealous with being a ranger

[Question]

I'll repeat what I said in the Zeo thread:

This is the only right answer, really.

[RyanRXP]

RJ said it himself "THE TIGER LEADS THE TEAM" during "no "I" in Leader" and admitted he got overzealous with being a ranger

Just because he says he isn't, to help Casey, doesn't mean he is not the leader.

[Izout]

RJ said it himself "THE TIGER LEADS THE TEAM" during "no "I" in Leader" and admitted he got overzealous with being a ranger

Yeah, you know, RJ's explanation never sat well with me. How can a predator that works alone suppose to lead a group of other animals then another predator that works in packs? And how can he be overzealous about being a ranger when he had a MORPHER STASHED IN HIS CABINATE FOR GOD'S KNOWS HOW LONG?!! *Signs*

[Jyukai Rahziel Azu]

on the battlefield, casey is the leader, Arise The Crystal Eyes cements this, saving the scientist, fending off DaiShi alone and whupping Grizzaka alone. RJ is more of an ops leader/mentor, that's how I see it, man. But i can see why you see it your way

[RyanRXP]

Yeah, you know, RJ's explanation never sat well with me. How can a predator that works alone suppose to lead a group of other animals then another predator that works in packs? And how can he be overzealous about being a ranger when he had a MORPHER STASHED IN HIS CABINATE FOR GOD'S KNOWS HOW LONG?!! *Signs*

Dude, how often are we on the same side?

You are right, but if we go by only animal spirits, than Jarrod should be a female(seeing how the female lion is the hunter) but that is off topic.

[RyanRXP]

on the battlefield, casey is the leader, Arise The Crystal Eyes cements this, saving the scientist, fending off DaiShi alone and whupping Grizzaka alone. RJ is more of an ops leader/mentor, that's how I see it, man. But i can see why you see it your way

RJ leading on the battlefield is what makes him the leader in my mind.
Casey was put in charge of a mission, that RJ sent him on. RJ clearly has far more say then Casey both on and off the battle field.

[Question]

You are right, but if we go by only animal spirits, than Jarrod should be a female(seeing how the female lion is the hunter)

To be fair, we've never seen Jarrod with his (her?) pants off.

[Jyukai Rahziel Azu]

Yeah, you know, RJ's explanation never sat well with me. How can a predator that works alone suppose to lead a group of other animals then another predator that works in packs? And how can he be overzealous about being a ranger when he had a MORPHER STASHED IN HIS CABINATE FOR GOD'S KNOWS HOW LONG?!! *Signs*

stashed along with the solar morphers too....if they went based off animal spirit alone, the wolf wouldn't be a teammate since it doesn't fit in the jungle fury mantra to begin with like the other other 4 rangers and even DaiShi and Camille

[RyanRXP]

To be fair, we've never seen Jarrod with his (her?) pants off.

But his spirit is the male lion.

[Question]

Could be a tranny lion.

[RyanRXP]

Could be a tranny lion.

But either way it is off topic so we should stop before someone gets mad.

[Question]

Nobody can get mad if I continue being hilarious!

[Jiemusu]

RWAR I'M MAAAAD :mad:

LOL only joking, the concept of Jarrod being a dickgirl or having a mangina is actually very luzly and amuses me. :D

[Andros 1337]

For those claiming Zhane became second in command of PRiS after he joined, can anyone give their reason why? T.J. showed most of his leadership AFTER Zhane joined the team, especially in A Rangers Leap of Faith and Five of A Kind. Zhane IMO was more of a loner than a leader.

[RyanRXP]

For those claiming Zhane became second in command of PRiS after he joined, can anyone give their reason why? T.J. showed most of his leadership AFTER Zhane joined the team, especially in A Rangers Leap of Faith and Five of A Kind. Zhane IMO was more of a loner than a leader.

And Zhane left the team for a bunch of episodes.

[Ernde38]

MMPRS1: Zack
MMPRS2: Zack (Until he left for the peace conference), Kimberly
MMPRS3: Kimberly (Until she moved to Florida), Billy
MMAR: Aurico (Unmorphed), Delphine (Morphed)
PRZ: Rocky (Until Jason returns), Jason
PRT: Adam (Until the "Zeo" Rangers leave), Carlos
PRIS: TJ
PRLG: Kai
PRLR: Chad
PRTF: Wes (Until Alex takes command), Jen (Until Alex is removed), Wes
PRWF: Max (Until Cole assumes his role as Red Ranger), Taylor
PRNS: Dustin (Until Hunter and Blake join the team), Hunter (Until Cam becomes a ranger), Cam
PRDT: Kira (Until Tommy becomes a ranger), Tommy
PRSPD: Sky (Until he gets promoted), Bridge (Until he becomes Red Ranger), Z (Seems like the next logical choice)
PRMF: Xander
PROO: Will
PRJF: RJ

[RyanRXP]

PRSPD: Sky (Until he gets promoted), Bridge (Until he becomes Red Ranger), Z (Seems like the next logical choice)


Not to insult your opinion, but it looked like the girls could not move up(seeing as they didn't when the show ended)

[Question]

I'm still bitter that Syd was ranked lower than Z.

[RyanRXP]

I'm still bitter that Syd was ranked lower than Z.

I not, but then I wanted Syd to die the whole season(and still do) She is in my worst 10 list

[Question]

I adore Syd. And she had seniority over Z. And she was pure awesome.

[RyanRXP]

I adore Syd. And she had seniority over Z. And she was pure awesome.

I won't get into this here, if you would like to see my reasons go to "the Cons of SPD" thread(I think I siad why there), and if you would like to debate with me, PM, or VM me, I don't want to go too far off topic.

P.S. Z was the only part of SPD I liked.

[Question]

We're not off topic. I would have liked to see Syd as second-in-command.

And I'm not really debating, either - we're just stating our respective opinions. I never said you were wrong to like Z.

[ForeverBlack]

Lost Galaxy -Kai imo
Jungle Fury -Found them all to be a bit immature,so I gotta agree that its hard to decide.

those are my thoughts on it

[RyanRXP]

Am I the only one that thinks Jungle Fury has the most confusing command structure?

I mean in one episode Lily seems to be leading, the next its RJ, then its Casey for two, the RJ takes over for 2. I say RJ is the leader and Casey is the Second in Command, but at times it seems like Casey is the lowest ranked ranger. It is just extremely confusing.

[Question]

Casey's the leader of the team, but he often defers to the others because he's the least experienced - a cub. He's only the leader because of the Tiger spirit.

[Izout]

Am I the only one that thinks Jungle Fury has the most confusing command structure?

I mean in one episode Lily seems to be leading, the next its RJ, then its Casey for two, the RJ takes over for 2. I say RJ is the leader and Casey is the Second in Command, but at times it seems like Casey is the lowest ranked ranger. It is just extremely confusing.

That's because Jungle Fury doesn't have a command structure. For the most part, the rangers looked to be on equal footing with each other until they screwed it up by saying Casey was team leader (Which doesn't make sense).

[Raditude]

MMPR1: Zack
MMPR2: Zack until Tommy became White Ranger, then Jason, then Rocky
MMPR3: Rocky
Alien Rangers: Aurico
Zeo: Adam, then Jason when he became Gold
Turbo1: Adam
Turbo2: Justin and Carlos
Space: TJ
Lost Galaxy: Kai
Lightspeed: Joel
Time Force: Wes
Wild Force: Taylor
Ninja Storm: Tori then Hunter
Dino Thunder: Tommy
SPD: Sky
Mystic Force: Xander
Operation Overdrive: Will
Jungle Fury: Lily

[RyanRXP]

I think RJ is clearly the leader in the show, he commands everyone and no one takes Casey's word over his.

Casey is shaping up to be the next Conner. The leader one day, and the next, his mentor becomes a ranger and just takes over the team.

[ForeverBlack]

Casey's the leader of the team, but he often defers to the others because he's the least experienced - a cub. He's only the leader because of the Tiger spirit.

What episode has he done any good leading?

[RyanRXP]

Jungle Fury: Lily

Now that I think of it, she might be.
Minus RJ, Lily is the only one that is clearly takes over outside of battles.



They may have said Casey was the leader, but watching the episodes, it is clear that he is not ahead of the others, but it is clear he is behind RJ in rank.

[Question]

What episode has he done any good leading?

I'm going to quote myself here, because I think you missed something.

Casey's the leader of the team, but he often defers to the others because he's the least experienced - a cub. He's only the leader because of the Tiger spirit.

I never said he was ever a good leader. I only said the reason he was made leader was his animal spirit.

[ForeverBlack]

I was asking you,lol,thought you saw,I didn't.you said he was leader because of the tiger spirit.

[Question]

Yeah, I really, really don't like Casey at all. I think he's an okay person, I guess, but a horrible Red Ranger.

If it were up to me, PRJF would be Power Rangers: RJ Squad, and everyone would be RJ, except Lily would still be there, but the internet wouldn't keep trying to get them to mate because ew.

[Ernde38]

Not to insult your opinion, but it looked like the girls could not move up(seeing as they didn't when the show ended)

Hey...it's cool! :cool: After Bridge became Red Ranger (even though the show ended, I think. I didn't watch the season entirely, I just know about the PR 1 chain of command) I felt it was neccesary just to have someone in the role of SIC, so I just picked one of who was left...LOL.